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Patriot Games
Greg Sargent gets the prize today for reporting the least surprising news of the week:
Republican leaders are gearing up to critize Obama’s eventual decision on the way forward in Afghanistan even if it falls modestly short of sending an additional 40,000 troops, a senior GOP aide says.
What a shocker. But as Spencer Ackerman says, why stop at 40,000? After all, there's an 80,000 number that's been making the rounds too. "As long as the GOP is indicating to Sargent that it’s interested primarily in playing politics with the war, why not go for a number with real differences from any 30,000-plus option Obama is likely to favor?"
In any case, it's sort of odd that all these patriots never had a problem with the 30,000 troops George Bush had in Afghanistan for the past couple of years. Or the 20,000 he had before that. Or the 10,000 before that. But Obama's 100,000+? Why, that's practically treason, my friends.
But like I said: hardly surprising. So here's the real question: how seriously will the media take this when it happens? Will they give plenty of coverage to criticism that's so patently contrived that a five-year-old would see though it? Or will they treat it as if it's a serious national security debate? Wait and see!
Good point.
Good point. It would even be easy for a talking head to make. Pretty sure Blitzer would fall on his face with it, but somebody else might be able to push it.
Seriously?
You really mean that to be a serious question? The media's coverage is just as predictable as the Republican response. "Obama chose 30k, Republicans say 10 mILLION! so the correct answer must be somewhere in between (but closer to the Republicans.)"
Republicans should favor any
Republicans should favor any increase in troops if they favor continued operation of the war (I don't). But it's not like Democrats refrained from making political calculations with Iraq and Afghanistan (like voting for them, then running away from their votes), and I don't remember any snarky posts from KD when they did it. There are hardly any principled members of Congress (or bloggers) at all.
Answers
Honest, Kevin, make your quizzes tougher and grade on a curve.
dejavooz all over again
Afgahnistan is an unwinnable situation. Haven't we learned anything from Vietnam and Iraq? The population hates foreigners, is tribal, inbred, and has no use or understanding of democracy. Karzai, like the Diems, is a client of the US and lived here until we delivered him to Kabul. and, speaking of corruption. The Afgahn elections are bogus, as they were in Vietnam, and later in Iraq. Karzai's brother is the mastermind of the Afgahn drug world, immune from all law as are their other executive level drug guys. Instead, we go after the little guys, burning their crops, displacing them, destroying their houses, killing their families. Do we want or need to create another nation of refugees? Haven't we learned that invading countries, putting boots on the ground, imposing our will by force, never makes a native population welcoming or gratefull? Rather it has the opposite effect: resistance and undying hatred of the US, our soldiers and our lofty aims. We're creating a situation of endless escalation and futility. It also means that a lot of US soldiers will die and ten times as many more will be seriously wounded. 150,000 homeless, PSTD Vietnam, Gulf War, Iraq War vets slept on our streets last night (11/10/09). Have the US government and our military leaders no shame? Are we going to send in more and more troops until the situation in Afgahnistan is too big to fail. And, who will bail us out?
What a juvenile wanker
Another Brad >"...There are hardly any principled members of Congress (or bloggers) at all."
Those that are paying attention in the real world realize that to make it to the top in politics and the public sphere does NOT require principle but simply the regular use of kneepads, sometimes day in and day out.
People like you need to get off your a** and work to pull aside the curtain behind which the puppet masters function instead of taking oh so easy cheap shots at the puppets. You can start by getting out of your mother's basement.
"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats." - H. L. Mencken
All right. You want a war. Let's have a war.
Let's institute a draft of all people 30 years of age and under. Let's send them ALL to fucking Afghanistan. Now are we empire-builders? When a hundred thousand peoples' children start coming home in body bags, will that finally give these bloody, no-account desk murderers the nut they so obviously need? Will that be enough to wake the citizens of this good land out of their warrior dreams, when they have to cry over their own relatives instead of mouthing platitudes about someone else's losses? On this solemn day, which so many use as an excuse to glorify death and destruction, I think it's time to really bring the war back home.
30,000 troops was sufficient
30,000 troops was sufficient with the Great Helmsman's hand on the tiller.
Troop numbers
"Wait and see!" No, thank you.
I agree
a draft is necessary. And would really slow down the war impulse. No deferments - rich and poor, male and female, have equal chances of going.
Reinstate the Draft Now.
patriots
I object to the characterization of patriots, even though I understand the irony of the label, because patriots are people who love their country.
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