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New Memos: How Bush's Justice Dept. Approved Torture with Waterboards and Bugs
Bugs? The CIA tried to use bugs to get a suspected terrorist to spill secrets?
That's one piece of information contained in four once-secret memos written by Bush Justice Department officials to justify the use of coercive techniques--aka torture. The previously undisclosed memos, released on Thursday, were each produced by the Office of Legal Counsel in response to requests from the CIA for legal guidance. They outline specific procedures the CIA wanted to use on detainees--including waterboarding. Referring to these documents, Attorney General Eric Holder said, "The President has halted the use of the interrogation techniques described in these opinions, and this administration has made clear from day one that it will not condone torture. We are disclosing these memos consistent with our commitment to the rule of law."
In the first of the four memos--this one dated August 1, 2002--the OLC okays a CIA request to use 10 procedures during the interrogation of Abu Zubaydah, a captured al Qaeda leader whom the agency believed was withholding information about plans for attacks within the United States. The tactics included "facial slap (insult slap)," sleep deprivation, confinement in a small space, and waterboarding. Also on the list: putting insects in the "confinement box" with Zubaydah.
The OLC approved all of this, noting that none of the procedures would cause "severe physical or mental pain or suffering." As for the insect treatment, the CIA had informed OLC that its interrogators intended to tell Zubaydah they were confining him in a small space with a stinging insect but would actually "place a harmless insect in the box," such as a caterpillar. The memo notes the CIA had informed OLC that Zubaydah "appears to have a fear of insects." Curiously, in the section of the memo describing these 10 techniques, only the part on the insect scheme contains a sentence (or two) redacted.
The OLC did have a warning for the bug-wielders of the CIA. If the CIA interrogators were to place "harmless" insects inside a confinement box containing Zubaydah and were to tell him about it, the OLC said, they would also have to inform Zubaydah that the bugs "will not have a sting that would produce death or severe pain." And if they were not going to tell him about the bugs, the OLC said, then the CIA interrogators could not lead him to believe that there might be bugs present that could cause severe pain or death. Got it?
As for waterboarding, the OLC said, full-speed ahead, even though it noted that the procedure caused the perception of "suffocation and incipient panic." The memo--signed by Jay Bybee, then the assistant attorney general--pointed out that the OLC had previously concluded that "severe pain" is "pain that is difficult for the individual to endure and is of an intensity akin to pain accompanying serious physical injury." But the OLC maintained in this memo that the experience of being waterboarded was not covered by this definition. Waterboarding, the memo concluded, "inflicts no pain or actual harm whatsoever." The memo continued: "The waterboard is simply a controlled acute episode, lacking the connotation of a protracted period of time generally given to suffering."
The memo did note that "the use of the waterboard constitutes a threat of imminent death." But the OLC asserted that for this threat to be equated with "severe mental pain or suffering" it must be "prolonged"--meaning "lasting months or years." In other words, a physical act producing that was like suffocation that could be perceived as a "threat of imminent death" would not constitute "torture."
The OLC also informed the CIA that for any of its interrogators to be open to a torture charge, he or she would have to had "the specific intent to inflict severe pain or suffering." And, in OLC's view, the objective of the interrogators using waterboarding and these other techniques was not to cause pain; it was to obtain information. Thus, they were free to proceed. But the memo ends on a less-than-solid note. "We wish to emphasize," the memo said, "that this is our best reading of the law; however, you should be aware that there are no cases construing [the anti-torture] statue; just as there have been no prosecutions brought under it." That is, go ahead but don't blame us if someone later on raises a fuss--about waterboards or bugs.
UPDATE: A May 10, 2005, OLC memo noted in a footnote: "We understand that--for reasons unrelated to any concerns that it might violate the [anti-torture] statute--the CIA never used that [insects] technique and has removed it from the list of authorized interrogation techniques." The memo did not explain why the CIA dropped the bugs.
For a collection of Mother Jones articles on torture, click here.






























U.S. is DEAD
The America I grew up in is either DEAD or was always a big lie. Unfortunately, Obama is clearly not going to do the right thing. If he does not prosecute the Bush Administrations for their war crimes, he too becomes a war criminal. How will he explain that to his young daughters?
I have had enough, after 8 years of Bush/Cheney and now a limp Pres who speaks pretty, but has no substance. I have no interest in the Cosby show at the White House. Doesn't anyone in Washington or US politics have any substance?
U.S. is dead?
The U.S. is not dead. Neither is racism, you Cosby callin' creep!
So now..not only do our
So now..not only do our Presidents authorize torture, spying and all manner of crimes...our new President also obstructs justice...what country is this..? We prosecute those who commit war crimes against "our own"..(or the Jewish)..but we are exempt from any such accountability..(Muslims don't count as human?) no wonder the rest of the world hates the imperialistic United States...we are operating under the same priciples and arrogance as the British (France, Spain, Germany, Rome, etc.,) were at one time...and it stinks...we are not who we think we are....
Torture
I guess I am old-fashioned because I was taught that a crime is a cirme and the criminals deserved the punishment.
Torfure
My mistake, I am not anonyomos. I am David Hollar
Cover-up & denial
There is no plausible deniability. The cover-up of intentional torture is obvious.
What pales in comparison to the torture cover-up is the dogged efforts to obstruct investigations into 9/11--followed by appointment of insiders of the Bush regime to investigate themselves.
Waking up to undeniable torture is minor compared to awakening from the opening of Pandora's box--the full revelations about who really orchestrated 9/11.
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How Bush's Justice Dept. Approved Torture with Waterboards and B
People are surprisingly upset and wonder how could this happen?
How could Americans torture -- Wakey Wakey USA !!!!
Torture should not come as a surprise. Over decades U.S. culture has demonized Arabs.
Millions of innocent American children have been raised in this spirit. They learn early that Arabs are primitive non-humans.
Today is an Arab just another word for evil in the American consciousness and culture.
Torture is only the obvious and direct consequence of this culture.
The Americans who are protesting against the torture should have taken a stand against the racist image of Arabs in American society a long time ago.
But what are we to say about the 1.3 MILLION dead Arabs in Iraq since America invaded ? ? ( I.C.H.)
What about the 600.000 children under the age of 5 that the American economic sanctions killed when Bill Clinton was President ?
Palestinians have to die for of a Jewish WW II Holocaust which they had nothing to do with.????
1 .3 MILLION Iraqis have to die for 9/11 which they had nothing to do with ????
And Obama dares to deny that there is a War on Islam ! ! !
Torture
Let me see (They) Be-headed our soldiers/workers/reporters/civilian workers!
They came to our country and Killed our own!
I have friends that stayed in the Hanoi Hilton..
> What happened to these pieces of crap from our CIA or troops is NOT TORTURE !
These people in my opinion should have been eliminated from the face of this earth, they remain on this earth only to rein terror and grief on all of society!
Now All of us can keep looking over our shoulder for the next bomb that they will kill our loved ones with!
(This is a insult to all who have died for our country)
You should be more concerned with the Illegals entering our country then the subject you are entertaining!
God Bless the U.S.A. and our soldiers fighting for our rights.
waterboarding and Insects
Sorry, brother in humanity. You have once again swallowed the Media Moguls pills.
When the Twin tower came down Bushit raised the question why do they hate us? They hate us for our democracy- they hate us for our technological advancement.
My answer to these are no! no!!. Muslims do not hate America for any of these things. On the other hand we admire the achievements as a milestone in the progress of humanity. What the Muslims dislike is American Imperialism and attempting to subjugate other nations as mere vessel states . Most American do not buy the Bushit version of the twin Tower disaster. Why not have a commission to probe the whole matter so that we could see the hidden and invisible hands. A dog does not hate a dog nor the ferocious lion hate a lion. Why this 6th sensed human hate each other???
You tell me what our rights
You tell me what our rights are! Is it our right to wage illegal wars invading and destroying other countries, causing millions of innocent peoples deaths. Remember Philiphines, Vietnam, Cambodja, Iraq, Lebanon, Grenada, Panama to mention a few. And leave God out of this. There is nothing for him to bless here, if there is a God.
Bush and Cheney were not America' finest
That America that has stood on the side of the right and decent should have been lead away from that path by one or two men is a very great shame.
Bush and Cheney should face charges; until they do it's America's shame still.
We all support our soldiers; they deserve our support; these ex-leaders don't.
How Bush's Justice Dept. Approved Torture with Waterboards and B
The majority of American don't give a dam about Iraq never did.
The over 1.3 MILLION IRAQ DEAD & 4 MILLION HOMELESS , Cluster Bombs and Depleted Uranium etc etc in a beautiful country now destroyed.
Why were or are American "neocons" pushing a war by the US against 23 % of the World's people who are Islamic ???
Why or as they Quo Bono ? ? ?
VA estimates that nearly 200,000 veterans are homeless on any given night. And nearly 400,000 experience homelessness over the course of a year.
Americans are asleep at the wheel and more interested in what is happening on American Idol --
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How Bush's Justice Dept. Approved Torture with Waterboards and B
Beware the chickens that come home to roost.
America should start to see the effects of the Iraq war veterans' killing sprees here in the United States very soon.
Here are just a few of the more memorable individuals who received the best training in the United States military and returned to prowl our country's streets and commit terrorist attacks of a different nature:
Charles Whitman - former Marine sniper who killed his wife, mother, and then proceeded to the University of Texas Tower and picked off sixteen people using his sniping skills.
Dean Corll - former Army man and serial killer known as the "Candy Man" who killed at least 27 young boys and buried them in a storage facility in Houston, Texas.
David Berkowitz AKA "The Son of Sam" - New York serial killer and former Army vet who shot and killed at least six people during the 1970s.
Jeffrey Dahmer - former Army vet and Milwaukee cannibal who murdered at least sixteen young boys and men. He performed experiments on some of the victims and ate others.
Timothy McVeigh - Former Gulf War Army vet responsible for the Oklahoma City bombing.
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U.S. government old hands at torture
It was not too surprising to me when it was first "revealed" that the U.S. engaged in torture. Our leaders should have been prosecuted long ago. The U.S. has been engaged in supporting regimes that torture for decades and has also TRAINED foreign soldiers in interrogation techniques who then went back to their Latin American countries and used them on their own citizens. There are many well-documented cases of U.S. support and training of Latin American repressive regimes. Democratically elected governments were overthrown with our help and replaced with dictators who tortured and killed thousands of their citizens (Chile and Guatemala come immediately to mind). God bless America?
Torture can not survive as an interrogation technique unless there is a group to demonize and hate. Torturers go home to loving families. They have to separate themselves from their victims and they do this by using the justification that the people they torture are somehow not quite human, or that they are subversives that need to be eradicated. Arabs are the "new" enemy - it seems the United States of America cannot justify its own existence as a superpower without one.
The Memo
That i want jus a little bit question is, why in the Memo there isn't explained dropped the bugs by CIA.Flowers Cheap Online Blog Belajar seo
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