This is frightening and revolting, too. It's like they are trying to move the fetus more squarely into the realm of citizen by creating a specific paper trail that validates it the same as a birth cert. for a wanted and fully articulated baby.

Agreed- another attempt by the far right to disuade women from abortions- sounds like an obstacle. The people pushing these laws are the same people behind the UnIntelligent Design movement. A woman should be able to have an abortion any time, anywhere, any place.

This is yet again an attempt by a "special interest" group to strip away the individual's rights. The right in this case is a women to have an abortion. Now they can use this to go to people, and do it publicly and say, "Look, this women killed her baby. We need to stop this."
Okay, well here is my take on it. The Pro Lifers want these kids? Okay, then you make them by law pay child support on each child they "saved" until the kid is 18 or until age 24 if they decided to go to college.
Base the amount they have to pay on each states law on child support.
Hit time in the pocketbook, and they'll change their views.

Yay, I just love hailing from Tennessee...

What they want is to get the doctors signature on the death certificate so they can hunt him down and kill him. Here in Florida Dr. Gunn and Dr. Patterson of the Pensacola women's clinic were murdered by fundamentalist fanatics. It shows how selective enforcement is.
Pat Mahoney of "operation rescue" which is behind the murders does not even pay his tresspassing fines for harrassing clinics and is not prosecuted. He has bragged he will never pay a dollar in fines for harrassing clinics; though he has a paid up air card to let him fly anywhere; he says in court he has no funds. His Palm Beach mansion is in his mother's name. Would putting your money in your mothers name protect you from the law; I think not. Law enforcement is complicit in the murders and harrassment.
If Ishmael is just accused of shooting someone for Allah the homeland security laws let the US police violate all his constitutional rights, but these Christian terrorist murderers and those who shout "baby killer" at doctors to encourage the killers are the most protected people in the USA. The fact that Christians get away with murder in this country is more proof there is no god.
Dr. Patterson's killer has neer been caught. The investigation on the back burner.
Dr. Gunn's killer shot him at point blank range in front of police who were reluctant to arrest her even then.

I have a better idea. Lets have death certificates for every sperm killed by spermicide, thrown out in condoms, swallowed, spit out, etc and every egg that withered and dropped out via menstruation. Drown them in paperwork!

Yes, it's sickening--and all about strategy, not about faith, truth, justice, or anything else.

I guess one question would be--how do you distinguish, administratively, between an induced abortion and a spontaneous one? Why is an aborted fetus a person with full rights and privileges exceeding those of the mother--while a miscarried fetus is not? If one deserves a death certificate--and a funeral, one therefore presumes--then why doesn't the other? So--why aren't fundamentalist churches spending all their time doing funerals for miscarriages? Why is the burden of their "faith" always placed so conveniently on people other than themselves?

For that matter, if life begins at the moment of conception, why don't these same churches recognize baptisms of miscarried fetuses?

This is the state that Al Gore comes from. I rather go for a New Yorker like Senator Clinton or Senator Biden.

The Tenn. churches are not into funerals, but they like snakes. They are a strange lot. I am told that in the interest of Multi-culturalism we should tolerate them. I rather have the bourbon.

Can't agree with that, Ted, because by that logic, coming from Virginia, I'd be a gay-hating Christian instead of a gay agnostic. Besides, I don't think that Gore is running for anything right now.
Clifton, your blogs are always informative and interesting. No snark.

Gary-- that's a wonderful idea. Seriously, your logic is perfect. Rev. Dennis-- thank you for, in the midst of these lost souls, emodying the true and beautiful things of Christ's teachings.

All I gotsta say to these bastards is: may the fetuses you save be gay.