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Multiple corporate conferences dominated the lobby of San Francisco’s Fairmont Hotel yesterday, and at first glance, one never would’ve guessed that the Republican candidate who had stormed to victory in the Iowa caucuses was in the house. I found the Terrace Room, where Mike Huckabee was addressing the small yet powerful group that is the Bay Area social conservative set, by following the screams of a Code Pink antiwar protester (dressed sharply in a business suit to match the well-healed crowd) being dragged out. As her cries of "Out of Iraq now!" faded, Huckabee turned back to the crowd and remarked that the beauty of America is that the protester was not going to be taken out back and shot. Laughter ensued: The audience might have been small, but it was boisterous enough at that point (and at other times) to make up for the empty seats at the fringes of the room.

After a cordial Q&A with his supporters, Huckabee made his way into the adjoining Vanderbilt room, where local media were decidedly less friendly. They focused on two issues about which most San Franciscans strongly disagree with Huckabee: gay rights and immigration. And for the occasion, the ex-Governor of Arkansas toned down his usually fiery religious rhetoric.

Asked if he had spoken to the mother of Ryan White, the young AIDS victim who was expelled from school at the beginning of the epidemic and around that time that Huckabee said that HIV/AIDS patients should be quarantined, he said that they recently had a very long phone conversation with Ms. White-Ginder. When the questions turned to gay rights, he came out strongly against firing someone in a government position based on sexual orientation (yet left the door open for the possibility of firing a gay church employee). These answers were obviously tailored to the assembled group, and this was probably the first time he has dusted them off and trotted them out in public.

When it came to immigration, though, Huckabee seemed less willing to play to the crowd, despite the fact that he was in California, where the economy is kept afloat largely by the contributions of undocumented workers in the state's massive agricultural industry. Faced with a question on how he reconciles his position on immigration with the fact that California would be crippled without immigrants, both documented and undocumented, he answered that the short term contributions of illegal immigrants to the economy were negated by the amount of money spent on them in the form of social services, specifically Medicaid, food assistance programs, and federal aid to schools. (The study that anti-immigrant conservatives cite to support this argument is, as Business Week points out, pretty problematic. It doesn't take into account the fact that "illegal households" often include American-born children; doesn't account for the fact that illegal immigrants pay payroll taxes that bankroll Social Security and Medicare, both programs that they are ineligible for; and doesn't address this study that shows that immigration in fact increases the wages of Californians across the board.)

Although Huckabee downplayed his usual social conservative zeal for the occasion, he didn't miss an opportunity to out-Reagan his competitors. Asked if it bothered him that he was no longer deemed a front-runner, he responded that "I've never been the pick of the establishment. I probably never will be. That's OK, Ronald Reagan wasn't either."

—Andre Sternberg





Comments

Was it just proven that a mill worker's son can't be given a chance to be President. That money, power and the media will always win. That 2 - 4 states will decide who can go all the way to the Democratic Convention. The Democratic Party should have fought for all of us to have a say with our votes. The debates should have been on a national television station, like PBS, so that all of us could watch it, not everyone has cable or a computer to get the information that one needs to make an important decision as who is the best one for our Nominee for President. Ted Kennedy and the rest of the clan think that they are the ones to tell us who is the best. The Party and its leaders should have been fighting for all of us to have a say and to vote on the same day so it would have been fair for all those that were running. Then go to the Convention and see what happens.

A month ago I read Obama's foreign policy speech text that he gave to the Chicago Council on Global Affairs:

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2007/04/obama_foreign_policy_speech_te.html

He scares me with "No President should ever hesitate to use force - unilaterally if necessary - to protect ourselves and our vital interests when we are attacked or imminently threatened."

"Imminently threatened", doesn't that sound like President Bush. Read his speech with an open mind and remember that we are over nine (9) trillion dollars in debt. Right now we are a debtor nation, when we become a creditor nation again, then we can go out and help the poor nations, like with the Peace Corp, don’t give them the water, give them a pump to get the water themselves.

Do you want our money to go for more spending outside of the United States or here to take care of the poor and disabled, education, the environment, roads and bridges. There is the technology to build solar energy in the deserts of the southwest to provide enough electricity for the whole United States. It could have been built during the time we have been in Iraq and with some of the money spent there. Some farmers had leased electric trucks and loved them; they could go 60 miles an hour down the road. When the leases were up they wanted to buy the trucks, the U.S. manufacturer said no and took them back.

Do we really know how Obama and Hillary think about NAFTA, CAFTA, North American Union, the NAFTA Superhighway going from Mexico through the United States and up to Canada?. Do you know how you think about those subjects? Without Cable TV and/or a computer you probably never heard of them and the effects they have had or will have on the U.S. economy. Obama said in an article written for the Chicago newspaper:

"We cannot expect to insulate ourselves from all the dislocations brought about by free trade....we need to figure out a way to tell workers that no matter where you work or how many times you switch jobs, you can take your health care and pension with you always, so you have the flexibility to move to a better job or start a new business." Edwards plan on trade issues is better, Obama's way you may never stay at a job long enough to get a pension.

I’m disappointed in the ones that took large donations from Corporations and especially from Rupert Murdock, who has done more to hurt the Democrats than anyone with his lies and also that the Congressional leaders are so wimpy with the Bush Administration.

I’ve been a Proud Liberal Democrat since high school when our Civics' teacher had us write a report as to why we were going to join which Party. None of this, because Mom and Pop are. We had to give reasons why. Back then I found that when the Democratic Party was in control more people had jobs and more people were helped with situations beyond their control. I am shocked that now I am starting to look at the Green Party or to just be an Independent and see which way the wind blows. I first voted for McGovern and now I’m tired. Tired that someone can just give pretty speeches and right away, without knowing completely how he thinks, he is the man. I didn’t like what he said about the 60’s and 70’s. My generation cared. I still care and did my homework and I don’t like all the answers that have been given. I was for John Edwards and I still start crying when he said he would go all the way to the Convention and he’s not now. I think someone got to him, told him or threatened him to stop.

I listen to both sides, I heard over a year ago Ron Paul state that the dollar is falling. How come he knew it and no one else did? I never thought that I would be thinking: with a Democratic Majority in both Houses of Congress would a Ron Paul be so terrible. He would bring the soldiers home and he said he wouldn’t touch Social Security, of course, Bush said that in 2000 too.

I still want to know if Obama is/was holding up a bill in Congress to keep Edwards from getting his matching funds. I am so angry that Edwards didn’t get a fair chance, neither did Biden, Dodd, Kucinich, etc. Time to do some more homework.

Posted by: Diana Price on 02/02/08 at 8:46 AM  Respond

Diane, don't be afraid of Barack Obama, He's a brillant man that is bringing our country together. You do need "Cable" so you can see for yourself what's going on.

Posted by: MSO on 02/04/08 at 8:00 AM  Respond

MSO, you are wrong. OBAMA's Racist Church states: Trinity United Church of Christ
About Us: We are a congregation which is Unashamedly Black … Our roots in the Black religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are an African people, and remain "true to our native land," the mother continent, the cradle of civilization. God has superintended our pilgrimage through the days of slavery, the days of segregation, and the long night of racism. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a Black worship service and ministries which address the Black Community.
Trinity United Church of Christ adopted the Black Value System written by the Manford Byrd Recognition Committee chaired by Vallmer Jordan in 1981. We believe in the following precepts and covenantal statements. These Black Ethics must be taught and exemplified in homes, churches, nurseries and schools, wherever Blacks are gathered. They must reflect on the following concepts:

2. Commitment to the Black Community
3. Commitment to the Black Family
6. Adherence to the Black Work Ethic
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness"Disavowal of the Pursuit of “Middleclassness”
Classic methodology on control of captives teaches that captors must keep the captive ignorant educationally, but trained sufficiently well to serve the system. Also, the captors must be able to identify the “talented tenth” of those subjugated, especially those who show promise of providing the kind of leadership that might threaten the captor’s control.
Those so identified as separated from the rest of the people by:
Killing them off directly, and/or fostering a social system that encourages them to kill off one another.
Placing them in concentration camps, and/or structuring an economic environment that induces captive youth to fill the jails and prisons.
Seducing them into a socioeconomic class system which while training them to earn more dollars, hypnotizes them into believing they are better than others and teaches them to think in terms of “we” and “they” instead of “us”…

10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting Black Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all Black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the Black Value System.

Instead of "Black", put in Mexican or White and you will be called a racist.
Don't vote for Obama the Racist, vote for Senator Clinton, a friend of the California Mexican people.


Posted by: Isabella Fernandez on 02/04/08 at 8:40 AM  Respond

"Don't vote for Obama the Racist, vote for Senator Clinton"

If you aren't able to make the case for your preference without resorting to insults and disrespecting others - don't bother. Nobody buys the hate.

Posted by: capt on 02/04/08 at 11:37 AM  Respond

The Huckster has shown that he is a clever funny guy on Colbert.

I didn't realize he could be funny stupid until he said that "Reagan wasn't the pick of the establishment". His views on science are merely stupid.

Posted by: natural cynic on 02/05/08 at 11:10 AM  Respond


"Don't you wish Huckabee would shut the Huck up?"

Posted by: capt on 02/05/08 at 12:27 PM  Respond

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