Q&A: Gitmo Lawyer Shayana Kadidal on SCOTUS Ruling

Shayana Kadidal, senior managing attorney of the Guantánamo project at the Center for Constitutional Rights, isn't afraid to voice his opinion on the latest SCOTUS ruling in favor of Guantanamo detainees.

Below, excerpts from his conversation with MoJo reporter Stephanie Mencimer:

Mother Jones: Just as a refresher, since it seems as though the administration's rationale is constantly shifting, why exactly does the Bush administration want so desperately to keep the detainee cases out of federal civilian courts?

Shayana Kadidal: The whole point of creating Guantanamo was to create a black hole to avoid oversight by the courts. They can't justify the detention of these guys in federal court.

It's fundamentally an interrogation camp, not a detention camp. They never intended to prosecute and punish them.

MJ: By failing to afford the detainees basic due process rights, not to mention using torture, the Bush administration has succeeded in the extraordinary feat of making Americans feel sorry for the people held at Guantanamo, even though the detainees are supposedly extremely dangerous terrorists out to destroy us. Do you think that the five Supreme Court justices who voted for the detainees were also swayed by the stories about the detainees going crazy after six years in solitary confinement and other allegations of abusive treatment?

SK: The innocence narratives have finally started to catch on. The court finally started to realize that there are scores of innocent people being held there. The notion that there are innocent people down there who have not had a day in court really radiates off the page of the opinion of the majority.

MJ: But Justice Scalia writes at one point that the majority opinion will "almost certainly cause more Americans to be killed." Is there any reason to believe that he's right?

SK:The assertion that the criminal justice system isn't set up to handle these cases is nonsense. We have successfully tried in U.S. District Courts the 1993 World Trade Center bombers, the Cole bombers, and the Kenya embassy bombings. There are a million ways of dealing with this problem.

MJ: How soon could the detainees be released?

SK: For most of these guys, we often joke, the day the government has to come to defend the evidence against them is the day after they will get released.

[Note: For a backgrounder on all things Guantanamo, read The Torture Index.

Comments

While I AGREE with today's majority opinion that "all enemy combatants detained during a war, at least insofar as they are confined in an area away from the battlefield, [but] over which the United States exercises 'absolute and indefinite' control, may seek a writ of habeas corpus in federal court," I also AGREE with Chief Justice Roberts (and his fellow dissenters) that the Writ can be suspended in time of war, such as the war on terror that we find ourselves involved in right now, and that suspension power belongs to Congress, such as Congress has exercised in this case, "as the Constitution surely allows Congress to [wield]."

I guess one can REASONABLY conclude that the Court's Majority knew where they wanted to end up, and proceeded to get there, however s-l-o-w-l-y they weaved their way through precedential minefield!

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Posted by: KYJurisDoctor on 06/13/08 at 9:33 PM Respond

When one attacks another country that is not at war -- that is an incursion. Neither Afghanistan nor Iraq was at war with the United States and did not in any way attack the United States. The United States attacked these two sovereign nations which is an incursion, not a war.

Just because insurgents fight to fend off an incursion does not make that incursion a war.

The people originally accused of attacking the United States were Saudia Arabians and Saudi Arabia is our ally which does not make a war.

None of the people taken by the United States are legally prisoners of war and all are being held illegally and need to be released or charged and given trials.

War is the only exception. If terrorism is war, we have been in war since Cain slew Able.

Posted by: MarthaA on 06/15/08 at 10:04 AM Respond