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Will John McCain Make Exorcism (Literally) a Campaign Issue?
As John McCain moves to select a running mate, it seems--at least for the moment--that the star of potential veep nominee Bobby Jindal, the Louisiana governor, is rising. This is good news for Democrats.
On one level, Jindal is impressive. The son of Indian immigrants, he's only 37 years old, and he has already been elected a member of the U.S. House and a governor. (Talk about a Junior Achiever!) Yet can McCain, who claims Obama is not sufficiently experienced to become president, say with a straight face that Jindal is prepared to take the helm? And Jindal's record in Louisiana--including his stint in charge of the state health department--has its spotty moments. Then there's that exorcism.
Blogs and news outfits have already picked over a 1994 essay that Jindal, a convert to Catholicism, wrote for a Catholic magazine, describing an exorcism of a friend in which he was an observer/participant. Not only did Jindal and his pals manage to drive the Satanic demon out of their friend; the exercise, Jindal suggested, also cured her skin cancer. The article was entitled, "Physical Dimensions of Spiritual Warfare."
Americans tend to be quite religious. Most tell pollsters they believe in heaven and hell (and assume they are heading upward, not downward, once they expire). Many tend to believe literally in the devil. But how will an amateur exorcism--that violated Catholic law (which allows only certified exorcists to perform the ritual in very limited circumstances)--play with, say, swing voters? No doubt, Jindal will have to discuss the episode. With Oprah perhaps? That would indeed be Must See TV.
Here's one excerpt of his article that an interviewer might want to ask about:
While Alice and Louise held Susan, her sister continued holding the Bible to her face. Almost taunting the evil spirit that had almost beaten us minutes before, the students dared Susan to read biblical passages. She choked on certain passages and could not finish the sentence "Jesus is Lord." Over and over, she repeated "Jesus is L..L..LL," often ending in profanities. In between her futile attempts, Susan pleaded with us to continue trying and often smiled between the grimaces that accompanied her readings of Scripture. Just as suddenly as she went into the trance, Susan suddenly reappeared and claimed "Jesus is Lord."
With an almost comical smile, Susan then looked up as if awakening from a deep sleep and asked, "Has something happened?" She did not remember any of the past few hours and was startled to find her friends breaking out in cheers and laughter, overwhelmed by sudden joy and relief.
As a vice presidential candidate, Jindal would be under great pressure--and ought to be--to make other participants in the event available for interview. In the article, he used fake names. But he insisted every single detail was true. Given that such an event must have had a profound impact on him--he came face to face with a real demon!-- this possible president-in-waiting would be obligated to prove that he got the story right, that he was not exaggerating. (Remember how the press and the GOPers went after Al Gore's claims in 2000 with a vengeance?) And the media, of course, would be on the hunt to find "Susan" to get her side of the tale. (Enquiring minds might want to know if her skin cancer is still gone.)
Is Jindal prepared to disclose more about this exorcism? Is the McCain campaign prepared to see more disclosed? The event is a legitimate target for voter interest and media scrutiny. After all, Representative Dennis Kucinich had to explain his UFO sighting. And Jindal should not be allowed to hide behind the cloaks of faith and personal privacy. Barack Obama had no choice but to explain his relationship to a particular minister. He didn't duck the issue by claiming it was a private relationship based on faith. So if Jindal is anointed by McCain, the exorcism will be fair game.
America may or may not be ready for a national political debate about exorcism and Satanic demons. By picking Jindal as a running mate, McCain would give the country a chance to find out.
Comments
Oh, PLEASE attack Jidal with this. Please remind religious Americans how dumb liberals think they all are. McCain's going to lose this race unless the Democrats do something stupid like what you suggest.
Hey, the White House has needed an exorcist for some time now, but a Republican who casts out demons? Whose side is he on?
Posted by: smitisan on 07/23/08 at 2:17 PM Respond
Chris,
Seriously? That's your answer? That Jindal would be vindicated by religious Americans when asked about his 'exorcism'? No doubt you've probably conducted a few of your own or perhaps get a kick out of speaking in tongues but outside the small minority of devout biblical literalists and hard core evangelicals (most recently put at a generous 7% of our country), this would simply have the same reaction as it does on me...that is to say, I find it rather creepy and psychologically unsound that a man thought he had confronted and exorcised a real demonic possession.
Posted by: felix on 07/23/08 at 4:30 PM Respond
David, you are late. Matt Drudge reported: From CNN Correspondent Dana Bash,
Is McCain inching toward Pawlenty?
ROCHESTER, New Hampshire (CNN) – It's VP tea leaf reading season, and a Republican source who attended a small private meeting with John McCain Tuesday in New Hampshire tells CNN that the GOP candidate dropped a serious hint about Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty.
Posted by: John on 07/23/08 at 5:57 PM Respond
Praise the Lord and pass the snakes!
or in McCain's case, snake oil...
Posted by: zippy w pinhead on 07/24/08 at 12:35 AM Respond
Religion is formalized superstition.
Now hand me that rattlesnake, please, I threw my arm out beating the crap out of my bible and got a sore throat from speaking in "tongues".
And, BTW, both of the presidential candidates expect you to PAY TAXES to fund it.
-Wexler
Posted by: William W. Wexler on 07/24/08 at 5:28 AM Respond
I am surprised to see all the bigoted comments here. Where is the spirit of multiculturalism. You people are so judgmental with your western values and do not understand Indians. You need more diversity training. Apparently I have failed. It is always the teacher's fault, not the students. Don't you realize that your western culture is no better than any other culture?
Posted by: Panda Bear on 07/24/08 at 7:29 AM Respond
seriously, this is the one thing you find? what about his horrific stances on all sorts of social issues? and it's not like the reverend wright controversy was fair, either; play a fair game, play the game you want to be played, and don't pick on such a pathetic topic. jesus christ, call attention to this and you'll be as bad as the vultures on any network news station.
Posted by: william on 07/24/08 at 11:31 AM Respond
I agree with Panda Bear and william.
Why hate people because of race, religion, and cultural differences when there are so many REAL reasons to hate them?
(With loving thanks to Emo Philips)
-Wexler
Posted by: William W. Wexler on 07/24/08 at 11:36 AM Respond
Arun Gandhi
President and co-founder of the M.K. Gandhi Institute for Nonviolence.
Arun Gandhi is the fifth grandson of India’s legendary leader, Mohandas K. “Mahatma” Gandhi. He is president and co-founder of the M. K. Gandhi Institute for Nonviolence, now at the University of Rochester in New York.
Jewish Identity Can't Depend on Violence
Jewish identity in the past has been locked into the holocaust experience -- a German burden that the Jews have not been able to shed. It is a very good example of a community can overplay a historic experience to the point that it begins to repulse friends. The holocaust was the result of the warped mind of an individual who was able to influence his followers into doing something dreadful. But, it seems to me the Jews today not only want the Germans to feel guilty but the whole world must regret what happened to the Jews. The world did feel sorry for the episode but when an individual or a nation refuses to forgive and move on the regret turns into anger.
The Jewish identity in the future appears bleak. Any nation that remains anchored to the past is unable to move ahead and, especially a nation that believes its survival can only be ensured by weapons and bombs. In Tel Aviv in 2004 I had the opportunity to speak to some Members of Parliament and Peace activists all of whom argued that the wall and the military build-up was necessary to protect the nation and the people. In other words, I asked, you believe that you can create a snake pit -- with many deadly snakes in it -- and expect to live in the pit secure and alive? What do you mean? they countered. Well, with your superior weapons and armaments and your attitude towards your neighbors would it not be right to say that you are creating a snake pit? How can anyone live peacefully in such an atmosphere? Would it not be better to befriend those who hate you? Can you not reach out and share your technological advancement with your neighbors and build a relationship?
Apparently, in the modern world, so determined to live by the bomb, this is an alien concept. You don't befriend anyone, you dominate them. We have created a culture of violence (Israel and the Jews are the biggest players) and that Culture of Violence is eventually going to destroy humanity.
Washington Post, “on Faith” 1/7/08
Posted by: vivekananda on 07/24/08 at 12:56 PM Respond
And now, let's discuss Bobby Jindal's GOOD points!
Rejecting the federally mandated RealID B.S., and rejecting it in no uncertain terms.
Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindall has signed HB 715, which "Directs the Department of Public Safety and Corrections NOT to implement the federal REAL ID Act of 2005." The new law also requires that the department "report to the governor any attempt by agencies or agents of the United States Department of Homeland Security to secure the implementation of the REAL ID Act through the operations of that division and department."
So, how many points does the Governor score with MoJo writers & readers for that thumb in Bush's eye??
I give that a good 8.25 on a 10 scale.
Of course..., it also puts the thumb in the eye of a few Congressional Democrats who voted 'Yea' on this Real(show-me-your-papers)ID crapola too... but they earned it just the same as Bush did.
Posted by: The Good Side on 07/24/08 at 4:21 PM Respond
I see the grasping at straws has begun. Swing voters will care less about this nonsense because they'll see it for what it is...a weak attempt to bash a political opponent.
Please stop, you're making asses of yourselves. Socialism is done in this country. The majority will prove it to you once again so keep trying. This article is nothing more than wasted space by a socialist hack afraid that the majority aren't listening anymore. You're right, we're not.
Posted by: thx338 on 07/25/08 at 7:59 AM Respond
This is lame...you should be ashamed of yourself for imprinting this nonsense!!
Posted by: smerls on 07/25/08 at 9:33 AM Respond
who cares? republicans? democrats? these choses are the worst,the absolute worst, vote in big numbers independant, if you really want to send a change message, poor old mccain is a sacrafice and obama is a slick sells job and neither is gonna change a damn thing, you wanna shake things up? write in a candidate in big numbers,..that will be momentous..more of the same bull ,will only incourage them to continue to misrepresent you...do it please
Posted by: ricko on 07/25/08 at 11:43 AM Respond
A May-December Republican ticket with 2 delusional guys, how wonderful for the GOP. I can't imagine why anyone would vote for these two, either together or separately. They both sound a little nuts.
Posted by: mary on 07/25/08 at 1:06 PM Respond
ricko is right,we'll not see any changes by either one other than their residence's address ! I just watched John McCain on CNN saying that he knows how to fight a war and I know how to win a war !!!!
John MacCain's last war was about 50 years ago & he had
20 hours of active duty and that was it ! is it enough to make him more experienced in national security issues ? and when did he ever won a war ?and what war ?why they do not ask him these questions ?
Posted by: massimo on 07/25/08 at 2:01 PM Respond
Vote Libertarian for real change. McCain and Obama both support the war machine and the coming war for Israel with Iran.
Posted by: Bob on 07/25/08 at 3:18 PM Respond
Um, Bob, I don't see Libertarian candidate Bob Barr changing that, either.
Posted by: Jeff Billman on 07/25/08 at 6:02 PM Respond
Jeff, here's an excerpt from Bob Barr's statement on foreign interventions and US military bases.
America should not be the world’s policeman. The American purpose is to provide a strong national defense, not to engage in nation building or to launch foreign crusades, no matter how seemingly well-intentioned.
It is time to reemphasize the word “defense” in national defense. By maintaining a military presence in more than 130 nations around the world in more than 700 installations, with hundreds of thousands of troops deployed overseas, the U.S. spends more to protect the soil of other nations than our own. Bringing these soldiers home would better protect America while saving lives and money. The U.S. requires a military strong enough to defend this nation, not to support and defend much of the rest of the world.
American foreign policy should emphasize swift, decisive and winning action against those who vowed would harm us. This means defense, not foreign intervention.
And on the closely related issue of Iraq, he says:
The invasion and occupation of Iraq were two separate mistakes, which collectively have cost thousands of American lives and hundreds of billions of U.S. taxpayer dollars. Every day that the occupation in Iraq continues without a withdrawal plan is a day that more American blood and treasure (some $400 million a day) is needlessly wasted.
Unlike Republicans, who are calling for essentially permanent bases in Iraq, and Democrats, who have done nothing to counter Republican calls for an indefinite occupation, I would put in place plans for withdrawal without undue delay. While I support an exit from Iraq as quickly as possible, I would not publicly announce a timetable to our adversaries. However, as President, I would begin to immediately and significantly begin to reduce both the military and the economic security blanket we are providing the government.
The Iraqi government has come to rely too heavily on American forces to maintain control of its country, and our U.S. taxpayer dollars to artificially support its economy. A continued U.S. presence in Iraq emboldens both insurgents and terrorists, and discourages the Iraqi government from taking control of promoting peace and prosperity in Iraq.The invasion and occupation of Iraq were two separate mistakes, which collectively have cost thousands of American lives and hundreds of billions of U.S. taxpayer dollars. Every day that the occupation in Iraq continues without a withdrawal plan is a day that more American blood and treasure (some $400 million a day) is needlessly wasted.
Feel free to compare these to Obama's and McCains policy statements. See if either one of them has plans to draw down and eliminate the de facto American Empire.
Posted by: Droolius Sneezer on 07/25/08 at 6:29 PM Respond
Well said, Mr. Sneezer.
Posted by: Give me Liberty on 07/27/08 at 7:21 AM Respond
McWhinner is a loser. Why doesn't he pay for the 5 American jets he crashed? Graduated # 587 in a class of 600! Give me a break. The guy suffers from Post Traumatic ego-centric disorder. He needs to start enjoying the millions from his wife because as you know we cannot take it with us when we are gone.
Posted by: Lucero1946 on 07/27/08 at 3:21 PM Respond
"Please stop, you're making asses of yourselves. Socialism is done in this country."
That's funny.
Despite that the right wing corporatocracy has been working full force to transfer socialism from the people to themselves for the last 25 years, it hasn't happened yet.
In fact, it's going the other way. The end of corporate control of public policy is on the horizon, and we will soon be ending insurance company profiteering in health care with a universal plan. It will happen in the next 8 years. "Privatization" of public services is going to die, too. Regulations on key industries such as banking, stocks, and insurance will be strengthened. Unions will flourish in the workplace.
It's all coming, I know you right wing types are not going to be pleased, but you've had 25 years to try your stuff and it's resulted in what we have today.... a nation on the brink of collapse from within. And this is all YOUR fault; we have not significant external enemy to have caused this, just a few people in caves.
-Wexler
Posted by: William W. Wexler on 07/28/08 at 5:58 AM Respond
Willy boy, you are so ignorant. Since day one the rich have always controlled the scene. This will not change. Get back to waiting tables Willy and stop complaining.
Posted by: Thurston on 07/28/08 at 8:06 AM Respond
Probably have voodoo rituals too,as McLame is very superstitious.Also PTSD,paranoia, alzheimers and anger issues.Nice combination for a leader.
Posted by: william on 07/30/08 at 10:14 AM Respond
Maybe Jindal can perform an exorcism on Cindy and expel once and for all the evil drug addiction demon that overtook her body and forced her to steal drugs from her own foundation.
It would make for a great Dateline episode I think.
Posted by: Mike on 07/30/08 at 12:15 PM Respond
Apropos of your post. Aren't McSame's and Jindal's religio- superstitous mentality the reasons why they are Repubs, namely, their lizard brain thinking. Lest we forget, Bush thinks he is Jesus Christ And the Pope(my religion) thinks he is infallible, when in reality only God is infallible. And the Pope is staunchly aligned with the Repub party. And isn't that the same as previous Popes(Pius XI and XII) being aligned with Hitler and the Nazis. But that leads to another topic which is off thread for this one.
Posted by: bobr900 on 08/11/08 at 6:34 AM Respond
John McCain's soul was exorcized with self-righteoUS imperialUSi$m since before his aerial bombings of civilians in Vietnam. If, as he confessed publically last Saturday in a church, his greatest moral failure was not his gleeful terrorUSt$ bombing runs upon peoples of Southeast Asia but instead was his lustfully ambtious discard of his first wife allowing him to crawl up the skirt of an alcohol industry millionairess, then his Gawd can surely serve up enough mumbo-jumbo to convince him that the US-perpetrated catastrophe in Iraq was/is an equally righteoUS blessing on humanity and the American peoples must elect him their president to confirm it.
Posted by: Greg Eikom on 08/19/08 at 2:09 AM Respond
did Bush officially convert to Catholicism yet? I know the UK's Blair & Brown are recent Catholics. Anyone think Obama will convert too? he does need a new church. the self described Zionist Joe Biden labels himself Catholic I think? weirdos..btw Jindals wife is doable.
Posted by: rudy on 08/27/08 at 3:15 AM Respond
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Posted by: Chris on 07/23/08 at 12:08 PM Respond