The Unbearable Vagueness of Timothy Geithner

Is the treasury secretary leveling with the American people about the financial crisis?

—White House photo.
Fri April 24, 2009 5:01 AM PST

On Friday, the Treasury Department will share the preliminary results of its so-called "stress tests" with the nation's troubled banks—but this week Timothy Geithner missed another opportunity to open up the books and tell the American public what's really happening with the country's financial system. When the treasury secretary addressed the five-member panel overseeing the Troubled Asset Relief Program on Tuesday, he stressed the administration's commitment to "transparency, accountability, and oversight." Then he proceeded to deliver a characteristically opaque assessment of the economic crisis, without providing much in the way of specific information. He didn't provide much clarity regarding TARP expenditures, the amount of leverage remaining on the books of imperiled banks, or the volume of toxic assets hovering like storm clouds on the financial horizon. Never mind that some of this data was contained in the 250-page report produced by TARP Inspector General Neil Barofsky, which was released on April 21.


story continues below story continued from above

Barofsky reported that the TARP now spans 12 federal programs, totaling almost $3 trillion, or "roughly the equivalent of last year's entire Federal budget." That figure doesn't count the nearly $10 trillion that the Federal Reserve, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC), and the Treasury have put up via various loans, guarantees, and other backing. Of the $700 billion bailout component approved by Congress (the rest of the $3 trillion is parceled out through an acronym soup of other programs), $590.4 billion has been committed, of which $328.6 billion has already been spent.

In his testimony, Geithner highlighted the importance of getting the securitization markets moving again. And he blamed ongoing uncertainty over the value of "legacy" (a kinder word for "toxic") assets for the lack of confidence in the banks, and their well-publicized lending shyness. He failed to mention the fact that many banks continue to hoard capital to cover the losses they're not exposing.

Elizabeth Warren, chair of the Congressional Oversight Panel (or COP) has consistently called for greater transparency and evaluation methods for TARP money, and a more critical view of the securitization process that introduced so much risk and leverage into the financial system. Her concerns go to the heart of the question of whether it's wise to prop up a system that wasn't working by rewarding companies with cheap capital and the incentive to maintain the status quo, rather than restructuring the system outright. Geithner should listen to her.

In his remarks, Geithner noted that "foreclosures are particularly problematic" for people and banks. However, the federal government has committed just $75 billion to help struggling home owners, while the Public Private Investment Program (PPIP) Geithner unveiled in late March frees up as much as $1 trillion for private investors to cleanse bank balance sheets of toxic assets.

Meanwhile, Barofsky warns that taxpayers are at considerable risk, both from fraud and the "sheer size" of the PPIP. Already, his office has nearly 20 fraud investigations under way and is conducting an audit of the $45 billion that Bank of America received through the TARP program.

While Barofsky stayed on point during Tuesday's hearing, Geithner dodged questions ranging from "How is the $700 billion dollar bailout working?" to "What's the AIG exit strategy?" to "How is Citigroup doing?" (He said he couldn't talk about "specific institutions.")

Geithner did tell the panel that "currently, the vast majority of banks have more capital than they need to be considered well capitalized by their regulators." Back in the real world, however, the International Monetary Fund had just raised its estimate of global bank losses to $4 trillion. And the FDIC had requested two credit line increases from the Treasury to cover expected US bank failures. (So far it has had to step in to assist or seize 55 banks since 2008—25 so far in 2009.)

Plus, bank lending is dropping. According to the Wall Street Journal's analysis of the latest Treasury report, lending by TARP recipients is down 23 percent since they first got capital injections in October. One of the banks posting the greatest lending decline is JPMorgan Chase, which apparently used government guarantees and backing for acquisitions (Bear Stearns in March 2008 and Washington Mutual in September 2008) instead of lending.

Meanwhile, we await results of the infamous stress tests of the biggest 19 banks, which are supposed to made public on May 4. Geithner promised that, if needed, he will provide these banks with more capital in the form of preferred stock purchases. This is another win-win for the industry and another potential boondoggle for American taxpayers. If a bank's stress tests are poor, it gains more access to federal money. If results are good, it's gotten a public-sponsored adrenaline shot of capital that could have otherwise been used to shore up mortgages for individual borrowers, repairing the loans underlying the toxic mortgage-backed securities.

Geithner has said that stabilizing the financial system requires the government "to take risks." That's a scary notion given that overzealous risk taking is what got us into this mess. When it comes to digging us out of this financial fiasco, adding more risk to the equation doesn't seem like a strategy that will bode well for the future. Equally troubling is Geithner's tendency to skirt even the most straightforward questions about Treasury's economic recovery efforts.
 

Get Mother Jones by Email - Free. Like what you're reading? Get the best of MoJo three times a week.
Comments
no profile pic for comment author

They only have and 5 or 6

They only have and 5 or 6 Trillion to play with before the creditors dry up. Hope they spend it wisely.

no profile pic for comment author

Tim, the Prince of Darkness has Dimples

These banking terrorists is holding the nationage hostage after robbing us. These rats broke the bank and nobody knows how to put it back together again but the crooks, so they insist. It is people like this whom makes waterboarding and torture sound far to mild. Now Geithner wants to stimulate the "securitized mortgage loan business." Shirley you must be joking.

no profile pic for comment author

Transparent as mud

Let's see.... Globally, over $579 trillion in bad paper being passed by these 'banks',
mostly perpitrated by the US based 'banks' ('cause most countries that even bother to pretend have REAL banking regulations, and don't allow liabilities to be counted as assets (uncollected,and uncollectable debt = liability, it's only an asset to the extent it's been paid) ....this is all 'classical', pre-Regan, pre-voodoo economics ;
the $60+ trillion that is immediately due to be covered just in the US alone...,
the 'bailout' that was really a going away gift to the folks who benefited from this Ponzi scheme, the biggest swindle, and let's not forget, -the biggest property grab in the history of the planet. I'd guess he's got good reason to not be 'transparent' and 'forthcoming'.

no profile pic for comment author

Yeh, Clear as Mud!

That pack of lying dogs is holding the nation hostage. It took them many years to carry out this process and leave taxpayers holding the bag. The Crime of the Century and the wealth of the nation was scimmed of. Next, and was capped with these ongoing bailouts to complete the perfect crime. Or is it?

Those egg-sucking hounds have feathers all over their mouths and the chickens are missing. Yet, they insist they must remain guarding the henhouse or we are doomed. True, nobody dares to do the obvious and bust out the doubled barreled shotguns.

I am reminded of the old saw, "Oh, what a tangled web we weave when first we plot to deceive." (Scott)

As it stands, this will continue until they have squeezed out the last drop, using miscellaneous scare tactics and completely supported by mainstream media. Only a precious few people that I know have a clue about how this works. These guys make cat burglars in the "Pink Panther" look like pansies. Nerves of steel, but that is what it takes rob every GD thing right under our nose and broadcast around the world. The very idea of attempting to revive the securitized mortgages is the highpoint of this ongoing robbery. Wow! Except that it is ruining the nation and will lead to massive deprivation or life-and-death, it is kinda exciting.

Wow!

no profile pic for comment author

Geitherner's opaqueness

Someone in Sec. Geithner's position has to be careful in the way he releases information. He can't be too pessimistic or too optimistic. If he's the former, markets and the economy spiral downward. If he's the latter, he misrepresents the actual conditions in the economy. That leads to further economic distress, to put it mildly!

no profile pic for comment author

"They only have and 5 or 6

"They only have and 5 or 6 Trillion to play with before the creditors dry up."
Who exactly are the creditors? What exactly are the terms of the loans that the Fed Govt takes out? What are the terms of payback? Who is supposed to pay them back?
Why doesn't anyone talk about this? It seems like a reasonable public discussion, but no one covers it. If an individual or family buys a house these are the regular, sensible questions to ask, but why do they not apply to the Fed Govt?
There is a lot of talk in Congress about passing the debt onto grandchildren, etc; but it actually seems like there is no intention of ever paying back the Federal debt, at least not more then "the monthly minimum." How much is that? To whom does it go?
Did the Fed borrow money from its creditors to just pay it back to them in very small installments on into infinity? What is really going on here? Are they robbing Peter to pay Paul, while they pass the buck at Congressional hearings? Who is "they" exactly?
Why is debt considered an asset? This seems to be at the source of the problem, but again, no one mentions it. If a bank loans 30x or more money than they have, shouldn't they expect high risk when loaning so much more than they actually had to give out? Most people I know don't really expect to get back all the money they lend to their friends. Why is debt an asset for banks?
The IMF can say that banks worldwide lost $4 TRILLION, but it seems like it was fake money all along. They lost money they hoped people would payback, not real assets. It was just debt that they expected to get back over the course of the next 30 years, and by creating wild loans they diminished the chances of that occurring. Moralism can only go so far when a person's ARM loan spikes much higher than his income.
Why should anyone pay back money they borrowed from an enormous and corrupt national institution? If one borrows from a local bank there would be more incentive to pay back the loan, but from Countrywide or Cap 1 when things are tough, no way.
Another problem is that banks, with the help of other businesses and cheap credit, turned their future debt returns into real properties in the present that now they cannot sell. Why did people build ugly subdivisions in the exurbs and tons of crappy strip malls with their fake money? Of course they would lose their value! You can't fool all the people all of the time!
Timothy Geithner seems vague because almost everyone in the Congress that has the chance to grill him on the truth, and hopefully educate the people that care in the process, was in on the ruse. We won't get the truth out of him until people start asking the tough questions. I say get the CIA interrogators who were let off the hook to publicly grill him and the Wall St cats, et al until they cry and tell the truth. But then again, they are afraid of the tough questions, and the truth, too.

no profile pic for comment author

The entire Federal

The entire Federal Government along with its imaginary Fed banking institution (Really a private banking consortium) has to go. Time for "We The People" to take this country back. The revolutionary war was fought over a 3% tax increase! We're getting the shaft and what do we do? We bend over a little farther. Their time is here. "We The People" say give us our country back NOW. In the 2010 elections VOTE OUT EVERY Republican and Democrat. Put the Constitutional Republic back as it was before this "Democratic experiment gone wrong" came into power. REMEMBER:

"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. And to the REPUBLIC, for which it stands. One nation, UNDER GOD, indivisible, with LIBERTY and JUSTICE for ALL."

And the JUSTICE for ALL means that we prosecute the existing CRIMINAL GOVERNMENT for crimes against "We The People"

"CHANGE" is coming and it's coming fast. NOT the "Phony Change" from some campaign promise but the real change, back to the way this country was meant to be. Be Prepared.

no profile pic for comment author

Three Stooges

I feel sorry for Timothy Geithner. He was thrust into this mess by a president who just last year was a senator-in-training. Who knows, maybe at the end of 4 years Obama will get the hang of being a president. In the meantime get used to the antics of Three Stooges (Barack, Harry, and Nancy).

no profile pic for comment author

They are trying to engineer

They are trying to engineer a soft landing instead of a crash ...

no profile pic for comment author

Soft landing for who?

Spoken like a true corporatist lackey. Quit reading that IMF Bilderberg rag, the Financial Times and wake up. Can't believe people don't see through that FT bulls&^t. The only people who are getting the soft landing are the executives at AIG, Goldman Sachs, etc. and the government shills who represent them. If you are like the rest of us, you have just lost half your 401-k, half your net worth, and possibly your job. Not exactly what I would call a soft landing for most of us. But, in order to provide a soft landing for the scumbags responsible for this mess, YOUR future and YOUR children's is being mortgaged away by the printing presses at the Fed.

Think I'm full of it? Then ask yourself who's paycheck you would rather receive this year? ..... an executive in charge of the billion dollar derivatives loss at AIG?...... or a commercial real estate broker? Need I say more? This entire government bailout charade stinks to high heaven..... and has from day one. Geithner shouldn't be in charge.... he should be indicted. The only difference between AIG, CitiGroup, Goldman Sachs.... and Bernie Madoff... is the size of the Ponzi. Madoff was a minnow when compared with sharks like Timothy Geithner, Robert Rubin, Larry Summers, Ben Bernanke, and Henry Paulson. These guys are running the largest Ponzi in history .... and the American people are the victims. Soft landing?.... yeah, right.... good joke.

SriJim1

no profile pic for comment author

geithner

this man is part of the financial clique installed to protect the financial market and ensure that capital is directed to them.

if obama does not remove this crook from office, he becomes an accomplice to this crooked group of thieves.

appoint elizabeth warren as treasury secretary--an honorable, intelligent, and honest citizen who will provide the american people with the protection that is so sadly missing under geitner, benarke, summer, etc.

no profile pic for comment author

Geither's Vagueness

jbo cornehls

Timothy Geithner is vague because he is a diplomat and that's what diplomats are trained to do, smile brightly and say nothing of substance. How many false starts and backtracks now in the past 2 months? Geithner is neither a trained economist nor trained in money, banking and finance. He has advanced on his diplomatic skills and being well-connected on both Wall Street and in Washington. His best move to stay in his job is to keep everyone guessing. We're all waiting with bated breath, for what? Would that Ben Bernanke could be at Treasury and Geithner back at the Fed or Goldman Sachs, where he is more at home.

no profile pic for comment author

Sympathy for the Great Satan

Sympathy for the Great Satan • As the President of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York (2003-2009), Timothy Geithner had direct responsibility for oversight of Wall Street. After previously being involved in the deregulation of exotic financial instruments and repeal of Glass-Steagall, he oversaw the largest destruction of financial wealth in world history. He, along with Alan Greenspan, Robert Rubin, Larry Summers, Bill Clinton, George Bush, and many others were the architects of this financial apocalypse. However, rather than being served with the indictments they so richly deserve, they are handed the keys to the kingdom. These beelzebub beasts are portrayed as saviors walking on water in lockstep with the media-manufactured messiah. Vagueness? Geithner's vagueness sends a crystal clear message.... F%^K The American People!! Any American who believes Geithner is acting in their best interest needs to have their head examined. Geithner's appointment as Secretary of Treasury is but one more cynical example of Barack Obamas complete contempt for the American people. Obama has yet to make a single appointment that passes the corporate stooge test. Not one!! Mr. Obama may have a charismatic personality, but he has a Tri-Lateral heart. He is George Bush in black face.... with the same ice water running through his veins as Dick Cheney. Why else would the Wizards of Wall Street choose him as their candidate? Who would have ever thought it possible for anyone to stick their tongue even further up the corporate rectum than the tonsil-reaching Hillary Clinton? And yet, this appears to be one of Obama's major accomplishments during his First 100 Days in office. To paraphrase F. Scott Fitzgerald, "They represent the Rich who are not like you and me.".... re-affirming the Patriot Act, escalating the war in Afghanistan, furthering the New World Order Globalist adgenda, bailing out the corporate criminal class, re-capitalizing the IMF, appointing the same government cutthroats & lobbyists who have destroyed the entire fabric of the country. The extent of their crimes are unfathomable. These are people to be despised, not admired. We all wanted to believe change was in the air. The only change is an even stronger stench emanating from Washington. It's a damn sorry state of affairs.

God Help The Great Satan,

SriJim1

no profile pic for comment author

Hey folks

Marx and Engels was actually right. The capitalist have push the limit (and are hoarding what they thought was wealth) while catastrophe awaits us all. The bailouts will make the worlds various currencies worthless. We will deteriorate into overt class warfare and the subsequent sociopathies!

JimRinX

A new kind of 'priesthood', maybe that's the soultion!

In Sci Fi Grand Master Jack Vances 'Gaean Reach' Series of Books (the Star Kings; Allistor Cluster Series; Throy; Maske: Thaery; etc. - all of which are nearly as good as anything Frank Herbert wrote!), he postulates a kind of 'preisthood' - along with a religion that posits the virtues of honesty and selfless public service (kinda' like the Mimbari, of Babylon 5) - who are incharge of all Government Bureauocracies; which leads to a Nice Universe where being a crook is a 'sin' - and the woes of sinning are driven into the heads of future Buereaucrats, from the moment they enter the Monastic-like School where they're trained for their future roles from childhood onward.
I think he was on to something; the only problem is, short of putting ourselves through the trials and tribulations of a Nuclear Annihilation - how could we inpliment such a thing, no matter how wise it would probably be to do so?
He also creates a sort of Illuminati-like 'Institute'; in this Age of Institutionalized Vice-like Corruption, everyone should read some Jack Vance - even if you don't like Sci Fi!
JimRinX

no profile pic for comment author

This whole fiasco is

This whole fiasco is maddening beyond words. A new presidency does nothing to deal with the systemic corruption. A new presidency does nothing to reform the status quo. A new presidency does nothing to enforce the Sherman Act. A new presidency does nothing to assign a Pecora commission. A new presidency does nothing to stop the terrorist extortion tactics of Wall Street.

The reality is Washington is the source of this crisis. Washington is corrupt beyond words. Well beyond this fiasco. They have destroyed our economy. Washington must go. We need true political reform and transparency into the hooligan corruption that defines both parties.

Only We the People can fix this crisis.

no profile pic for comment author

Sham Presidency

The Obama presidency is a continuation of a government/banking criminal enterprise of covering up and defrauding the American people that has gone on for many years. The only solution is to remove all of the corporate executives and government shills who are perpetrating this crime. What is the chance of that happening?.... almost zero.

You correctly say, "Only We the People can fix this crisis." My question is HOW?

Best regards,
SriJim1

no profile pic for comment author

Tim's gut instinct is to

Tim's gut instinct is to first take care of Wall Street. When it comes to talking with Goldman Sachs & JPM the man has no spone; when it gets to the bonuses and perks of his buddies, he refuses to make them acc

Geithner's selection was unfortunate at least as far as the bailouts are concerned. He may be a better secretary where there is no conflict of interest

no profile pic for comment author

if obama does not remove

if obama does not remove this crook from office, he becomes an accomplice to this crooked group of thieves

no profile pic for comment author

Who can write my essay

Who can write my essay overnight on this topic? I need assistance.

Post a comment
Alternately, you may login to or register an account
The content of this field is kept private and will not be shown publicly.
  • Web page addresses and e-mail addresses turn into links automatically.
  • Allowed HTML tags: <a> <ul> <ol> <li> <blockquote> <img>
  • Lines and paragraphs break automatically.

More information about formatting options


Jail.org - Inmate Search
Criminal records, instant public records & people search & current court records. www.jail.org

U.S. Public Records Search
Search County & State Court Records, Criminal records, Vital and Adoption Records www.PublicRecordsInfo.com

Records.com - People Search
Public Records and Background Checks. Instantly Search Criminal Records, Addresses and Court Records www.Records.com

Court Records & County Records
Find Instant Public Records, Criminal Records as Well as County Property Records Search. www.PublicRecordsIndex.com

Mother Jones Podcast
Get in on the conversation! We talk about culture, politics, the environment, the economy and more. Listen now!

TalkBackTees.com
A treasure trove of liberal wit, wisdom and quotations, from ancient to modern, on colorful, cotton tees.

Support Independent Artists
Amazing art, crafts, apparel, paper-goods and more. A carefully curated selection of sundries since 1999.

FREE CONNECTIONS FOR GREEN SINGLES
Meet progressive singles in the environmental, vegetarian & animal rights community who share your values