Obama: Making Health Care Reform About Him
At a press conference, Obama succeeds as the Great Explainer, but he's no Gipper. Not yet.
Barack Obama certainly knows how to play the press to his advantage. On Wednesday night, he turned a presidential press coverage into an informercial for his leadership on health care reform. As question after question regarding his effort to remake the country's health care system was posed, the president turned each into an ongoing tutorial that demonstrated he's in command of the policy details and the big picture.
Which is crucial. Ultimately--and maybe very soon--Obama is going to have to sell a health care reform package as his plan. Let's face it: for most Americans, it's going to be difficult to understand the specifics of this complicated piece of legislation. And Republicans and industry groups yearning to defeat whatever is produced by Congress will look to whip up opposition and skepticism by focusing on a few details that can be made to seem unappealing or frightening (in or out of context). They will also rely on debate points that sound reasonable: Shouldn't we take our time when it comes to changing the entire health care system? Why rush through a program that could add costs or cause more problems when the economy is already on its knees?
To prevent such rhetoric and arguments--demagogic or not--from scuttling health care reform, Obama will essentially have to say, Take it from me, this is good legislation that the country needs now. And to do so, he will have to have a boatload of credibility. That's what he displayed in the East Room of the White House.
He began with opening remarks in which he tried to present an easy-to-fathom bottom line: "I realize that, with all the charges and criticisms that are being thrown around in Washington, a lot of Americans may be wondering, 'What’s in this for me? How does my family stand to benefit from health insurance reform?'"
No surprise, he had an answer ready:
If you have health insurance, the reform we’re proposing will provide you with more security and more stability. It will keep government out of health care decisions, giving you the option to keep your insurance if you’re happy with it. It will prevent insurance companies from dropping your coverage if you get too sick. It will give you the security of knowing that, if you lose your job, if you move, or if change your job, you’ll still be able to have coverage.
It will limit the amount your insurance company can force you to pay for your medical costs out of your own pocket. And it will cover preventive care like check-ups and mammograms that save lives and money....And, finally, no insurance company will be allowed to deny you coverage because of a pre-existing medical condition.
This is nothing he hasn't said before. But perhaps more Americans are listening now that the sausage-grinding is under way. And all this sure appears to be a good deal for many.
When the questions came, they were the obvious ones. How would you pay for this? How can you control costs? What are you expecting Americans to sacrifice--tests, referrals, end-of-life care? (An aside: why do mainstream reporters so often focus on the need for Americans to sacrifice?)
Each of Obama's replies was drenched with facts and figures--but each was accessible and easy to absorb. He claimed that two-thirds of the tab of health care reform will be covered by cutting costs and increasing efficiencies (and pushing wellness). He noted that he had wanted to reduce tax deductions for wealthy people to pay for the last one-third, but that Congress will probably come up with another funding mechanism--which he will only support if it doesn't place more tax burdens on middle class families. He explained that he has called for quick passage because "if you don't set deadlines in this town, things don't happen." He spoke favorably about a Republican-instigated plan to lower Medicare and Medicaid costs. He maintained that Americans will have to give up care that is driven by fee rates not best practices. He acknowledged that people were right to feel "queasy" about all the trillions of dollars being tossed about in Washington, while repeatedly contending that investing in health care reform was vital to the well-being and competitiveness of the economy.
Policy wonks and legislators can--and will--argue about Obama's assertions. But he uttered everyone with confidence. Those Americans who want to believe in him and whatever health care package he eventually okays--he's still not favoring particular legislative specifics--will have cause to do so.
But what Obama didn't say was also interested. Not once did he call upon Americans to get involved in the legislative process. He didn't pull a Reagan.
In Ronald Reagan's first months as president, he delivered several speeches urging Americans to support his ambitious economic plan, which involved tax cuts for the wealthy and severe reductions in social programs. Many Americans responded by flooding the House and Senate offices with phone calls demanding that the legislators support Reagan's initiative. Even though the Democrats controlled the House, this scared enough moderate and conservative Democrats into bucking Speaker Tip O'Neill and voting for Reagan's package. It passed.
During the Wednesday night press conference, Obama asked for understanding and support, but not participation. The off-shoot of his campaign, Organizing for America, which is part of the Democratic Party, has been powering up a nationwide organizing effort to support health care reform in general (since there's not one bill yet that the White House has embraced). This operation could do a lot with the list of 13 million Obama supporters it inherited from the presidential campaign. Still, Obama did not attempt to fire up his followers. His remarks on Wednesday evening were more about what he wants to do for you, not what he wants you to do for him. There was no Jerry Maguire-like call: help me to help you.
Perhaps that will come. It's hard to imagine legislative success for a decent overhaul of the health care system without pressure from the public. And given that it seems as if Congress will not finish the job by August 7, when the congressional recess starts, Obama, for good or bad, will have time to shift from eloquent explainer to power-politics leader.
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Did Obama make a mistake at the end of his press conference when he blasted the Cambridge, Massachusetts, police for acting "stupidly" when they arrested Skip Gates outside his house for disorderly conduct the other night? No doubt, this will become fodder for talk radio, maybe even cable news. (An hour-long special on Fox News?) What happened at Gates' home is somewhat in dispute. And even though the charges against the Harvard professor were dropped, the police might feel compelled to reply to Obama's blast, creating a dust-up that Obama doesn't need. After all, it doesn't take much to stir a controversy when an episode involves race and law enforcement.
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The press conference was ludicrous
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Polling data proves that Americans want a single payer public option, a public plan that is similar to systems in Europe (omigawd, not YEEEEEER-UP!) and Canada.
So why is it that single payer advocate organizations like PNHP composed primarily of physicians and other health care professionals can't get a seat at the table? Why is it that none of our elected leaders who represent people who want single payer ever mention the idea of studying national systems in other western countries to see how it's done? (Instead they let the ad-men spin about "socialized" medicine). Why is it that nobody in Congress or the WH dares to say that health care should not be a profit center?
And why is nobody in the press asking these questions when there is an opportunity like last night's press conference?
This is all too familiar. There is a frikkin' elephant in the room, and the press is letting us down AGAIN, just like you did when Dubya was ginning up a phony pack of lies to get Americans to support the worst foreign policy blunder in the history of the country. Now it's DOMESTIC policy. The press is still a bunch of well-fed craven lapdogs fawning over a semi-bumbling press conference full of vagaries offered up to the softball questions underhanded to a guy who clearly does not know or does not care about what the people want. So here we go, the biggest foreign AND domestic blunders in our history happening in the same decade because the shit-for-brains corporate media can't or won't get it right.
This is disgusting. We live in the age of instant electronic communications so every bit of data we want can be in our hands in a heartbeat. And every time it gets a chance, the press proves the old programmer's adage, "GIGO" (garbage in, garbage out).
Thanks for nothing.
-Wexler
http://twitter.com/wwwexler
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If I would have known I was going to live this long, I would have taken better care of myself.
~~~ George Burns
Re: "If I would have known
Re: "If I would have known I was going to live this long, I would have taken better care of myself."
Mickey Mantle said this long before George Burns.
Thank you.
I will check attribution for the quip, and change it as appropriate.
I can't very well be bashing journalistic sloppiness with an inaccurate attribution in my sig line.
-Wexler
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If I would have known I was going to live this long, I would have taken better care of myself.
~~~ George Burns
Correction.
Sig line corrected....
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If I would have known I was going to live this long, I would have taken better care of myself.
~~~ Eubie Blake, as attributed by Mickey Mantle, and many, many others.
Single payer without abolishing private insurance
HR 676 is really the ideal plan but it will put insurance companies out of business. The 5 Dollar Revolution competes head to head with insurance companies because it raises 140 billion in funding then pays doctors and hospitals directly. It can achieve what other plans won't because it doesn't raise taxes or add to the deficit. It meets all the president's criteria for change and is really the best way to fund the public option. HR 676 and the other single payer plans would be a new tax for everyone and the president promised the middle class and working people they would be exempt from taxation.
Wexler, consider the politics
The reason that Obama doesn't talk up single payer is rather obvious. First, as he said in the press conference, folks are afraid of change. Single payer would change the system so drastically that everyone would freak. Second, it's not politically possible to accomplish this big a change. Obama's position makes the insurance companies look like pikers if they don't at least acknowledge that they haven't addressed the problem through free market approaches. Advocating for single payer would open the door for every right wing nutcase to attack with the single word that incites not only the right wing base but a lot of others as well - "socialism." The fact is that most Americans have decent health insurnace and are fairly satisfied with it. Single payer would upset that part of the system that seems to be working, even if at substantial cost. Obama needs to hold on to as many in congress as he can to see this reform occur at all. Those in congress who have to answer to the insurance lobbyists and fat cat contributors can stand up to them and defend public option. What do they say if the vote is for single payer? It's politics, dude!
Entirely retiring the 7 tril
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Entirely retiring the 7 tril nat debt (Obama
mentioned) is really possible with ret 22yr fed
treasury analyst Richard C. Cook's plan. There
are a number of ways to issue currency. The
plan's 'basic income guarantee' is like the
Alaska dividend and could more than cover
health ins thru transitions. Drop the debt
based parasitic econ system entirely!
Cook is an analyst who has also called
correctly the current situation as more
econ "bubbles" burst. RichardCCook.com
has a video series. Watch pt 1 then 6 if
you're pressed for time. Watch the 47"
BEST econ primer EVER "Money As Debt"
as a sort of "Econ for Dummies" - a Cook
interviewer came up with the notion of
his plan as 'trickle up' economics. Issuance
of currency as debt is NOT the only way
to circulate what's needed for the real
economy.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2550156453790090544&ei=NDNiSvmM...
Cook plan video
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3468056684550176104
It will Backfire
If Obama is making healthcare reform about him, it will backfire just like his so-called stimulus bill did. I see a pattern developing in actions as president. He's playing the same game with the healthcare bill the he did with the stimulus bill, urging congress to pass it because things will get worse supposedly if they don't, and then they do anyway.
Nikki, you're mostly right
but I would add the following.
The primary reason why Obama shouldn't make this about him is that it ISN'T about him, it's about facts. The people who are working on the reform bill should be working with those, not with any one man or woman's personality.
I must be living in some kind of nightmare where simple logic cannot prevail and even our best journalists fall into the cult of personality trap rather than doing basic investigative fact finding as taught in Journalism 101.
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If I would have known I was going to live this long, I would have taken better care of myself.
~~~ George Burns
Step 1: Listen to Obama's
Step 1: Listen to Obama's press conference
Step2: Go to house.gov and read the 1000+ pages of HR3200
Step3: Compare what Obama says and what HR 3200 says
Step 4: Get confused because Obama is from Mars and HR 3200 is from Venus
Step 5: Read Corn's article
Step 6: Conclude that Corn doesn't know what he is talking about either
Step 7: Raise cash to pay for black market healthcare in near future
LOL!
Step 8: Report for Soylent Green processing at a center in your neighborhood. I'm headed there right now.
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If I would have known I was going to live this long, I would have taken better care of myself.
~~~ George Burns
Soylent green is PEOPLE! :)
Soylent green is PEOPLE! :)
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You are indutibly correct!
Thanks. Bea, Chicago
It IS About Obama... and We're ALL Sick of HIM!
Barack Obama will never -I repeat NEVER- say to your face what he actually plans to do or achieve with these huge new government programs…. like bankrupt the private health insurance industry. Everything’s rolled-out in a trojan horse, and you’re not allowed to look inside or ask any questions. Suffice to say, good-faith disclosure is simply not how this crew operates.
Rather, you get some calculating and specious oratory with styrofoam props to wow the plebes, like the tacky Greek columns in Denver. To him, the revolutionary ends justify the Alinskyite means- so the Dear Leader just tells you whatever he needs to, he knows what’s best for you anyway.
And the truth is that Obama is out to nationalize health care.. they’ll be no private insurance industry left after five years of Obamacare… but of course he’s lying about it.
As for the American public, the reality that Obama is dishonest and out-of-control seems to finally be setting-in; the poll numbers are now headed steadily south- is he already facing his Waterloo on this legislation?
Looks like it from where I’m standing…
Keep Dreaming
Keep dreaming, RR. Obama's ratings may not be as high as they were a few months ago, but they'll not be falling into the depths you wish they would. He is so much more transparent that Dubya ever was that calling him a liar is just stupid - stupider than a Cambridge cop. There's nothing to keep you or any other skeptical American from reading the legislative proposals being kicked around. You talk as if Obama had complete control over the legislative process. That's because you spend all your time talking and thinking in talking points from the republican party, where party loyalty trumps both patriotism and common sense.
If the private insurance industry goes bankrupt, it'll be their own fault. If the free enterprise system functions the way the economists say it does, the private insurance industry will change to meet the need for change.
By the end of September
By the end of September Obama will be considering himself lucky if his approval rating is in mid 30's. By Christmas, he'll be as popular as W. Even his own people are turning on him.
http://www.breitbart.tv/charming-liar-progressives-turn-on-obama-as-air-...
This was broadcast on AIR AMERICA recently. AIR AMERICA!
Geez, I can just imagine Jeanine Garofalo tearing her hair out now that her on again/off again employer is allowing people to call Obama a fascist after her remark about everyone against Obama as being "straight up racists". Are libs who are waking up to the fact that Obama pulled the wool over their eyes now racists, too?
sold out again
so what else is new......your goverment in DC CARES LESS ABOUT YOU ....they look upon you as nothing more than a tax SLAVE.......
Well, a little more in some cases
To some of the Congressional delegation, we are indeed more than tax SLAVES. To some we're a pretty good piece of tail, too.
;-]
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If I would have known I was going to live this long, I would have taken better care of myself.
~~~ George Burns
Health Care Reform
The debate over health care reform in the United States centers on questions of a right to health care, access, fairness, sustainability, and quality purchased by the high sums spent. The mixed public-private health care system in the United States is the most expensive in the world, with health care costing more per person than in any other nation, and a greater portion of gross domestic product (GDP) is spent on it than in any other United Nations member state except for the Marshall Islands. These should be solve or else we will be force to have loans for our Health Care. To read more, please visit http://personalmoneystore.com/payday-loans/no-fax-loans/payday-loans-no-...
Health Care Reform
The debate over health care reform in the United States centers on questions of a right to health care, access, fairness, sustainability, and quality purchased by the high sums spent. The mixed public-private health care system in the United States is the most expensive in the world, with health care costing more per person than in any other nation, and a greater portion of gross domestic product (GDP) is spent on it than in any other United Nations member state except for the Marshall Islands. These should be solve or else we will be force to have loans for our Health expenses. To read more, please visit http://personalmoneystore.com/payday-loans/no-fax-loans/payday-loans-no-...
What the article leaves out says a great deal
The second paragraph begin by telling us that we are too stupid to understand the legislative bill that will eventually socialize healthcare and so we should trust “The One” who has promised us “Change”. Also in the second paragraph the writer list only Republicans and Industry groups as the ones who oppose this legislation. The truth of the matter is that more than half the Democrats on the Hill also reject this ill devised gutting of the healthcare system. It goes on to state that the only thing we need to worry about is that he is for it and because he is so incredibly truthful there is nothing to worry about. If my humble farmer’s heart, any creditable individual would have produced a legal state issued birth certificate when first asked about it, if one so existed. However, what I think infuriates me the most in this grammatically flawed piece of journalism is the comparison of a fraud to a real cowboy. Ronald Reagan was right up front about what he wanted to do and how he was going to do it. Conversely, the charlatan leading us now states only that we should trust his leadership and leave the details of the policy to him.
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Beach is a state of mind….
Reagan upfront
Funny, I don't remember Reagan being particularly up front about selling arms to Iran and funding the Contras with the proceeds. Oh, wait, he was totally clueless about that. Clueless is always better than misleading.
Speaking of clueless, I can't believe you're still peddling that birther argument.
Great article
Obama's leadership style is interesting to watch. He's basically relying on congress (or someone) to come up with a plan and even though they are putting out duds he keeps emphasizing what the bill he will sign must include. His leadership style is kind of new age, allowing people to come up with their own solutions and supporting the best ideas that fit his vision. It takes an incredible amount of confidence to lead this way and it also means he has to have the patience of people following him to trust that his style of leadership is really going to produce the results he believes we're capable of acheiving. I love to see this new age approach in action.
Speak Now or Forever RIP
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I'm an American living in Indonesia. One of the benefits I enjoy in Asia is affordable health care with quick and easy access to my choice of internationally accredited doctors and facilities.
For in-patient care, a $90/month insurance policy covers me around the globe. Unless I go home, where I'm covered for just 6 weeks. At my pay scale, getting sick in the US is an uninsurable risk.
For out-patient care and drugs I don't need insurance -- these cost me 10% what they would in the States. Which means no big drama to get checked out or take proactive steps to stay healthy.
Obama wants a health care bill that:
1) cuts costs by investing in preventative care (does a stitch in time save nine?)
2) gives you the right to choose your insurance and doctor (does consumer choice drive efficiency in a free-market economy?)
3) ensures good health care that you can afford (if "third world" countries can do this, can we?)
Bottom line, would a law like this improve *your* economy? That of your business? Or your employer's business? Then who says it will ruin "The Economy"? People paid to lie, and they will until enough of us call them on it.
What should Americans be ready sacrifice? A few greedy liars. With relish!
If you care about being healthy and wealthy, make noise about it. Now!!
"Best in world"? I don't think so.
The Case For Single Payer, Universal Health Care For The United States
Outline of Talk Given To The Association of State Green Parties, Moodus, Connecticut on June 4, 1999
By John R. Battista, M.D. and Justine McCabe, Ph.D.
Why doesn’t the United States have universal health care as a right of citizenship? The United States is the only industrialized nation that does not guarantee access to health care as a right of citizenship. 28 industrialized nations have single payer universal health care systems, while 1 (Germany) has a multipayer universal health care system like President Clinton proposed for the United States.
Myth One: The United States has the best health care system in the world.
Fact One: The United States ranks 23rd in infant mortality, down from 12th in 1960 and 21st in 1990
Fact Two: The United States ranks 20th in life expectancy for women down from 1st in 1945 and 13th in 1960
Fact Three: The United States ranks 21st in life expectancy for men down from 1st in 1945 and 17th in 1960.
Fact Four: The United States ranks between 50th and 100th in immunizations depending on the immunization. Overall US is 67th, right behind Botswana
Fact Five: Outcome studies on a variety of diseases, such as coronary artery disease, and renal failure show the United States to rank below Canada and a wide variety of industrialized nations.
Conclusion: The United States ranks poorly relative to other industrialized nations in health care despite having the best trained health care providers and the best medical infrastructure of any industrialized nation
Obama would't dare try to mobilize those 13 million OFA contacts
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Because too many of them are likely to read the bill and turn on him. A very large fraction, probably a majority of Obama's own supporters favor single payer anyway.
Given its title, this article was a deep disappointment. There is another and much more salient point that can be made which the article's title summed up, but it seems that's not where the author's head was.
When the president focused on the "this will be his Waterloo" and similar comments from his opponents he sought to mobilize supporters without having them get any more familiar with the actual contents of the bill than they already are. Anybody of Obama's rank and file campaign volunteers who read it --- who understands that it does not take effect till 2013, that the public option is shrunken and ineffective, that Medicare and Medicaid cuts are part of its funding mix, will be affected in an adverse way for the president's fortunes.
So making it about him, instead of about the bill, is a great defense mechanism.
The usual scare tactics
As usual, politicians and pundits, alike, are using the usual scare tactics to keep Americans in the dark and from really knowing the issues. In spite of blatant, researched and historic facts that prove on the contrary, these very people want to spout how change will be the ruin of the American way of life and that the fall of the private industry will be disastrous for us all.
TO EVERYONE OUT THERE...PLEASE NOTE...if a sector of an industry falls, it means that it was NOT SUSTAINABLE...and where a door closes on one sector, another one opens somewhere else. IN A FREE MARKET ECONOMY, opportunity will arise out of adversity. WHEN Obama's healthcare plan goes through, then PRIVATE SECTOR OPPORTUNITIES will open up...jobs will be created...and the economy will recover. PLEASE don't be afraid of Obama's plans for healthcare reform! PLEASE don't forget that WHAT HAS ALWAYS MADE AMERICA STRONG is INGENUITY and PROGRESS, not holding on to old ways that no longer work.
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Self centered greed controls the current trend of the "majority" who are allegedly (if you believe the media) acting unfavorably to any major change in health care reform.. OUt of 300 million people in the US, only about 50 million have no insurance at all, which leaves probably half of the rest dissatisfied and the other half of 300 million happy. Of these last two groups, neither want the uninsured to have insurance at all if it affects themselves in any way and not just financially (thru higher taxes). They don't want the "have nots" to wind up with a better insurance program than the ones they are stuck in. And if having millions of fellow Americans, who presently can't even get on the waiting list for Medicaid, suddenly have the same right to happiness thru good health as they themselves have, well that's just not right. How else are the "haves" going to be able to prove they are better, superior, more worthy? It's the republican way. So much for the stupid polls. Who the hell are the pollsters interviewing anyway? Certainly not the ones with no insurance at all.
I've heard Obama called wishy washy and a milquetoast because he tries to please so many people at once. He would have never been elected if he had not - and if he hadn't become president (McCain, shudder) this country would have all ready fallen into hopeless depression with our most sinister enemies heading this way, strapping their ammunition belts over their shoulders, instead of spoiled rotten Americans - many of us - pulling ourselves up by our boot straps (whatever that is) and making this country work again. Despite the built in self centered greed of so many - which includes every republican I ever met and virtually all of the Christian Right (who are so stupid they don't even catch the irony or hypocrisy in their hate based lives), we will persevere and support our president. Its not just the bleeding hearts, all decent people want to see our fellow americans enjoy one of the rights of life like our civilized counterparts in the rest of the world. If the private insurance companies can't compete with that, let them change their ways or go into something else like pulling wings off flies or something.. After the way the way they have ripped us off for many years I can't do much boohooing over their fate. They certainly have not shown much compassion for their clients these many years. They have just been slick enough to know that this country is full of stupid, self centered, greedy and undereducated - and lets not forget racially biased people. who they have been able to manipulate, until now. Go Obama, one of the greatest of all leaders, as history will definitely prove - unless those other things, Maher calls them the lizard people, would somehow regain power and there is no more history. Proposed solution? Get the media the hell out of the discussion if they can't be fair and unbiased. They are the reporters, not the policy makers.
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"Shared Sacrifices"
When the questions came, they were the obvious ones. How would you pay for this? How can you control costs? What are you expecting Americans to sacrifice--tests, referrals, end-of-life care? (An aside: why do mainstream reporters so often focus on the need for Americans to sacrifice?)
why does "mama jones" betray the history of the REAL fighting mother jones who was a friend to workers and not a toady to democorats, peddling illusions about this corporate stooge whom i like to refer to as America's First BLACK Bush™?
to answer the question posed by the author of this article - "why do mainstream reporters so often focus on the need for Americans to sacrifice?"
perhaps because the phony avatar of "Change" makes similar calls for "shared sacrifices" (except when it comes to wall street bankers then WE must all share the sacrifices FOR the bankers):
"Obama asks graduates for sacrifice, service
Steps in for Kennedy at Wesleyan commencement"
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/05/26/obama_asks_graduat...
By Peter Schworm
Globe Staff / May 26, 2008
Noting that 64 Wesleyan graduates have joined the Peace Corps since 2001, Obama urged students to "hitch your wagon to something larger than yourself."
"Not because you have a debt to all those who helped you get to where you are today, though you do have that debt," he said. "It's because you have an obligation to yourself. Because our individual salvation depends on collective salvation."
Obama said individual and national sacrifice is urgently needed to tackle difficult problems such as poverty, climate change, and an energy crisis.
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Mr. Obama struck some unusually sour notes in what was billed as a major economic policy address. Yes, there were the trademark invocations of "shared sacrifice and shared prosperity." But Mr. Obama's remarks were also tinged with an angrier, and intellectually sloppier, message. We thought we'd heard the last of class warfare and populism when former North Carolina senator John Edwards finally bowed out of the race. In his speech, Mr. Obama quoted Mr. Edwards approvingly; he then echoed him in implying that he could pay for new domestic programs with an immediate U.S. withdrawal from Iraq and in exaggerating the "millions" of job losses attributable to trade agreements. Mr. Obama even seemed to draw a line connecting the current subprime mortgage crunch to "decades of trade deals like NAFTA and China."
Washington Post Editorial
"Trading Down"
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/16/AR200802...
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