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Washington Dispatch: Is Mike Huckabee the presidential candidate shunning Mike Huckabee the preacher? Before entering politics, he was a pastor at two Baptist churches. Now his campaign tells Mother Jones it won't make his sermons available to the media and the public.

December 10, 2007


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Now that he has his moment in the political spotlight, former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee does not want his days at the pulpit to be scrutinized.

As Huckabee has surged to the front of the Republican pack in Iowa, his religious views have drawn media and voter attention. After all, Huckabee, a former Baptist pastor, has been campaigning as a "Christian leader." But he has vacillated on how far to interject faith into politics. At an early debate, he indicated he does not believe in evolution, but at a more recent debate, when he was asked by Wolf Blitzer if the creation of the Earth occurred six thousand years ago and only took six days, as stated in the Old Testament, Huckabee said, "I don't know. I wasn't there." During a question-and-answer session with students at fundamentalist Liberty University last month, he asserted that his rise in the polls has an explanation that is "beyond human" and is due to the power of his supporters' prayers. Afterward, he backtracked slightly, adding, "I'm saying that when people pray, things happen.... I'm not saying that God wants me to be elected." (At a victory rally held after Huckabee won a 1993 special election for lieutenant governor, Huckabee told his supporters that he had only won because God had intervened, according to the Texarkana Gazette.)

With Huckabee walking this fine line, his campaign has declined to make available sermons that Huckabee delivered during his preaching days.

Before beginning his political career, Huckabee was a Southern Baptist minister for 12 years in his home state of Arkansas. He assumed the pastorate at Immanuel Baptist Church in the town of Pine Bluff in 1980, at the age of 25. Six years later, he moved to Beech Street First Baptist Church in Texarkana. In both locations, Huckabee's energy, ambition, and skills as a communicator energized his congregation. Under his leadership, each church grew.

When asked for copies of the sermons Huckabee delivered at Immanuel Church, an employee there claimed none could be found. A Beech Street Church pastor's assistant maintained that much of the archival material from Huckabee's tenure as pastor had been destroyed during a remodeling. The rest, she said, was not available to the press.

When Mother Jones contacted the Huckabee campaign and asked if it would help make his previous sermons available, the campaign replied in a one-sentence email that it had received multiple requests for such material and was "not able to accommodate" them.

Only a small sampling of Huckabee's early speeches are publicly available. While the pastor at Beech Street, Huckabee became president of the Arkansas Baptist State Convention. (At 34, he was the youngest person to ever preside over the 490,000-person group.) He held the office from 1989 to 1991. Several of his sermonlike speeches were featured in the convention's publications. In a 1990 speech to his fellow state Baptists, Huckabee urged the audience to hold to what he called "The 10 Commendations," including "Thou shalt love like a family" and "Thou shalt be found faithful." Huckabee also said, "It doesn't embarrass me one bit to let you know that I believe Adam and Eve were real people."

This remark was a bolder endorsement of biblical creationism than any comment Huckabee has been willing to make while campaigning for president this year. During a CNN/YouTube debate, the Republican field was asked by a man holding a Bible, "Do you believe every word of this book?" Huckabee said that portions of the Bible should "obviously" be seen as "allegorical." He again stated that he could not know the exact meaning of parts of the Bible, saying, "There are parts of it I don't fully comprehend and understand, because the Bible is a revelation of an infinite god, and no finite person is ever going to fully understand it." His earlier comment about Adam and Eve suggests he takes at least Genesis literally.

Huckabee certainly has reason to be concerned about an examination of his earlier remarks and sermons. Comments he made 15 years ago about AIDS and homosexuality recently became a campaign issue. During a failed run for the U.S. Senate in 1992, Huckabee noted in response to a questionnaire, "Homosexuality is an aberrant, unnatural, and sinful lifestyle, and we now know it can pose a dangerous public health risk." He suggested that the federal government commit no additional federal funding to finding a cure for AIDS, then considered by many to be a gay disease. In the same reply, Huckabee displayed callousness toward AIDS victims and an ignorance about the ways in which AIDS could be transmitted. "If the federal government is truly serious about doing something with the AIDS virus, we need to take steps that would isolate the carriers of this plague," he wrote. "It is the first time in the history of civilization in which the carriers of a genuine plague have not been isolated from the general population, and in which this deadly disease for which there is no cure is being treated as a civil rights issue instead of the true health crisis it represents." Instead of additional federal funding, said Huckabee, "An alternative would be to request that multimillionaire celebrities, such as Elizabeth Taylor [,] Madonna and others who are pushing for more AIDS funding be encouraged to give out of their own personal treasuries increased amounts for AIDS research."

Seeking to explain these comments recently, Huckabee made it clear that he still sees homosexuality as sinful, but that he has softened his position on AIDS research. "If I were making those same comments today, I might make them a little differently," he said.

Huckabee has indeed mixed religion with policy previously. In 1997, when he was governor, he answered a question about capital punishment during a call-in show:

Interestingly enough, if there was ever an occasion for someone to have argued against the death penalty, I think Jesus could have done so on the cross and said, "This is an unjust punishment and I deserve clemency."

Huckabee's argument: since Jesus didn't say that, according to the New Testament, capital punishment is fine. Also that year, Huckabee refused to sign legislation to assist storm victims because the measure referred to tornadoes and floods as "acts of God." Putting his name on such legislation, Huckabee explained, "would be violating my own conscience" due to the bill equating "a destructive and deadly force" as "an act of God."

In all the sermons Huckabee delivered before jumping into politics, he no doubt revealed beliefs and ideas that would be of interest to voters today. But his campaign, looking to attract evangelical Christian voters without alienating others, is not interested in seeing that material become part of the current political discourse. Huckabee the candidate is shunning Huckabee the pastor.

David Corn is the Washington D.C. bureau chief for Mother Jones. Jonathan Stein is a reporter in the Washington bureau.



 

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Huckabee is a religious "loon"!
Posted by:Steve DallasDecember 10, 2007 1:16:45 PMRespond ^
I believe Huckabee the candidate is running for President, not Huckabee the preacher. Besides, a lot of sermons are meant for the Christian Believer culture and wouldn't make much sense to the "Smart, Fearless Journalism" culture.
Posted by:RaulDecember 10, 2007 1:28:43 PMRespond ^
Huckabee is Jerry Falwell the Second. He's actually much slicker than Jerry. But there's a reason he doesn't want anyone to read the texts of his sermons and that's because they would expose what a fanatic he is. But if he is running as the President of the United States, his sermons may have been just for Baptists, but being president is about leading ALL the people, so now, everyone deserves to read them. Obviously, he is aware that most of the country will not embrace his radical form of Christianity, so he's trying to run from his past and hide his thoughts by hoping he can re-invent himself as being more palatable to the public.
Posted by:kpDecember 10, 2007 2:17:45 PMRespond ^
Keep digging into Huckabee past. It will be interestlng.
Posted by:Clifford SummersDecember 10, 2007 3:01:45 PMRespond ^
Huck has serious problems if he refuses to release his sermons. It is astonishingly troubling when the pastor is afraid to give the public his public talks.
Posted by:darbyDecember 10, 2007 3:02:08 PMRespond ^
We don't need repeat of this administration!!!!!!!!! No Huckabee!!!!
Posted by:Zola DanielsDecember 10, 2007 3:16:29 PMRespond ^
Man - someone's got to have this stuff out there. Anything on YouTube? Please post if you find something!
Posted by:Faun Saut "Le KoKo" DemouDecember 10, 2007 3:57:29 PMRespond ^
Good Lord. Check out what he did to Chuck Norris: http://youtube.com/watch?v=MDUQW8LUMs8
Posted by:AuppsettloDecember 10, 2007 4:00:56 PMRespond ^
While it might be an interesting read, should Huckabee's sermons to his two congregations really be considered "public speeches"? We know that while most churches invite the public to services, do they not still consider themselves "members" of the church? While we regularly see politicians campaigning from various pulpits, (a practice I detest) isn't it still odd to see one reluctant to so retroactively? -T
Posted by:HajjiDecember 10, 2007 4:04:49 PMRespond ^
Huckabee is crackers and (apparently) he doesn't have being a crackhead alchoholic as an excuse. Has he truely read the bible? Did he miss the numerous examples of god randomly visiting destruction on victums, randomly devastating people for no good reason? How to reconcile that god with Jesus the prince of peace, love and understanding? His belief that people deserve AIDS? Ya, the "rapture" is truly a right-wing "christian" codeword for blowing goats in hell. Maybe Pat Robertson will be his date for the party.
Posted by:JedDecember 10, 2007 4:31:11 PMRespond ^
"Whoever acknowledges me before men, I will also acknowledge him before my Father in heaven. But whoever disowns me before men, I will disown him before my Father in heaven." -Jesus, Matt. 10:32-33
Posted by:low-tech cyclistDecember 10, 2007 7:40:41 PMRespond ^
Looks like good old plain anti-Christian bigotry is alive and well on the far left. These attacks make those who hate Christians happy, but it will just help Huckabee in actual elections. There are many parts of the Bible that are allegorical, and God creating the universe is not one of them. If you spent your time getting drunk and high in college, why suddenly think you know how to understand a very large book you've never seriously studied?
Posted by:responseDecember 10, 2007 7:44:54 PMRespond ^
That would be interesting to see far left, anti-Christian journalists carefully reading through Christian sermons.
Posted by:thoughtDecember 10, 2007 7:47:38 PMRespond ^
Huckabee, the mainstream media's new golden boy, has the same superficial affability and well-concealed meanspiritedness as Bush. He's a theocrat and jingoist now coyly trying to position himself as a moderate. Perhaps he does have his more decent moments, such as some of his positions on immigrants, but he's still a far right wing conservative.
Posted by:AlexLawyerDecember 10, 2007 8:11:31 PMRespond ^
Those remarks about people, human beings, God's creations, with HIV/AIDS means one thing to me: Huckabee may be many things, but he is certainly no Pastor.
Posted by:Graham SowaDecember 10, 2007 8:14:47 PMRespond ^
This is Huckabee the presidential huckster. He's selling his folksy old-time-religion wholesomeness, looking to be everybody's guiding light. Not surprisingly, the light being shone on those attitudinal skeletons in his closet has his campaign wishing for an audience with fewer scrutinizers and more sheep.
Posted by:BruceDecember 10, 2007 8:39:48 PMRespond ^
Will the Real Huckabee Please Stand Up? http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/29678.html Flip Flop Huck!!!! In New Ad, Romney Attacks Huckabee on Immigration http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12 /11/us/politics/11huckabee.htm l?_r=1&ref=politics&oref=slogin www.abuckforhuck.com Huckabee: If You Don’t Give, I’ll Tax it Out of You http://stoptheaclu.com/archive s/2007/12/10/huckabee-if-you-d ont-give-ill-tax-it-out-of-you/print/ Huckabee Rhetoric: Destroying Government Documents is Anti-American Huckabee Record: When leaving office, Huckabee destroyed 83 hard drives and four servers in four locations http://www.earnedmedia.org/fred12101.htm
Posted by:DebrarDecember 10, 2007 8:42:43 PMRespond ^
Anyone interested in what Huckabee is really like face to face should try this funny (but it actually happened) column: http://goupstate.us/index.php/lanefiller/2007/11/02/title_14
Posted by:lane fillerDecember 10, 2007 9:27:16 PMRespond ^
While conservatives and liberals disagree on a great many things - we can at least agree on one very important item... That Mike Huckabee in the White House is a REALLY bad idea.
Posted by:ReneeDecember 10, 2007 9:41:22 PMRespond ^
Saying that some parts of the Bible should be taken allegorically does NOT mean that you do not believe those parts. If the Bible intends that part to be allegorical, then that's the way you should take it.
Posted by:HarrisonDecember 10, 2007 10:01:08 PMRespond ^
yeah i want to comment. he was not there when god created the earth. what do you guys want from this man?
Posted by:poconoweezeDecember 10, 2007 11:13:43 PMRespond ^
Can you blame him? It's not like the press will delve into his sermons for any honest reason - they'd be searching for dirt, for something "weird" he said in a sermon 25 years ago that they can splash a headline with. It's pure religious bigotry targeted at a group the supposedly objective and open minded media find weird and kooky.
Posted by:Jan KrtekDecember 11, 2007 3:06:54 AMRespond ^
Sermons preached to a group of people voluntarily present and of the same faith represent a different context than the public square. When Huckabee became governor his audience changed, and he governed accordingly - as a Republican but not a preacher. Find me a sermon Huckabee preached from the State House in Little Rock after he was elected, then I'll be concerned.
Posted by:Jan KrtekDecember 11, 2007 3:10:33 AMRespond ^
I hope there were no lies regarding the sermons. Nonetheless, one must objectively ask why anyone wants these sermons. the answer is simple: to find something to attack. When one seeks out a thing only in hopes of using it for cruel or satirical purposes, he or she should not be surprised to find roadblocks along the way.
Posted by:MarkDecember 11, 2007 4:26:40 AMRespond ^
Of course this is the same man who claimed angels carried his bullet to a deer when he was hunting...and tried to remove the furniture from the governor's mansion when his term ended. A reporter in Arkansas relentlessly covered him as Governor, and it appears Huckabee wriggled off the hook more than once over shady dealings. His quick rise on the Christian circuit, his mean-spirited homophobia, his rediculous religious claims (Adam and Eve were real people, etc), his dodgy responces as presidential candidate lead me to believe Huckabee is more huckster than preacher. Keep an eye on this one. There's alot more to him than his doe-eyed dumbness, ah-shucks act.
Posted by:MichaelSDecember 11, 2007 6:02:55 AMRespond ^
Of course Huckabee is a huckster..isn't anyone who uses their religious faith as a political platform? (Talk about the ultimate hypocrisy) And in Huckabee's case, that's all he really has going for him. * Yawn * Huckabee is flake playing the Jesus card. How is that news these days?
Posted by:Steve-ODecember 11, 2007 6:24:29 AMRespond ^
Hey, David. Go ask the Arkansas Democratic Party for a copy of his sermons. They made copies of all of them when he ran for Lt. Governor in 1992 (not that it did much good.) I can't believe you printed an entire article about your inability to find a copy of his sermons. Maybe you guys should get out of the Beltway now and then and actually work for a story.
Posted by:JohnDecember 11, 2007 6:26:57 AMRespond ^
Shocking! I bet Huckabee won't give up his personal diaries or his medical records either! What about his Carfax report! Or how about his credit score!
Posted by:Charles ArnoldDecember 11, 2007 6:27:46 AMRespond ^
What I am seeing from Mr. Huckabee thus far, is that, depending upon the crowd, either his belief system is very fundamentalist when the crowd is evangelical or more progressive when he is addressing a more moderate group. All of which makes him just another politician who says what needs to be said at the time to the people involved. The integrity gene is obviously very rare in politicians. However, if you really believe pouring over his prior sermons tells you more about the man, go for it. As for me, I would prefer a different read. And finally, I think people are making far too much of what the voters in Iowa think of any candidate. By and large, Iowa is neither progressive nor mainstream America.
Posted by:Sharon AshDecember 11, 2007 7:26:45 AMRespond ^
He becomes president, I will have to expatriate to Canada or Europe...
Posted by:JJDecember 11, 2007 8:05:14 AMRespond ^
It is not unreasonable that sermons from over 15-plus years ago are simply not available. Most sermons are not archived, and remember this was pre-Internet days.
Posted by:Travis LeMasterDecember 11, 2007 8:18:51 AMRespond ^
I recently posted a transcript of a Mike Huckabee sermon on my blog (his 11/4/2007 sermon at Prestonwood Baptist Church). Here is the link if you are interested in reading one of his sermons. http://www.rayfowler.org/2007/11/15 /mike-huckabees-sunday-sermon-at-prestonwood/
Posted by:Ray FowlerDecember 11, 2007 8:51:55 AMRespond ^
Being wary of Huckabee and his schewed message doesn't made one anti-Christian or unfamiliar with the Bible. So many of us had to leave the Southern Baptist Convention because of rigid, non-thinkers like Huckabee. It isn't unChristian or even left-wing to question someone's teaching. Especially after our recent painful and deadly experience with those who think they speak for God.
Posted by:p keelDecember 11, 2007 9:05:48 AMRespond ^
The one thing that we know for sure is that Huckabee does not believe every thing in the bible when he tried to blame the released prisoner for murders that he commited after being released. He blamed Bill Clinton and Jim Guy Tucker for the prisoner being released. When the facts about this case came to light it was Huckabee that had gone before the paroll board and ask them to release the prisoner. Just another case of a lying, hypocritical republican politician.
Posted by:Charles HiltonDecember 11, 2007 9:53:34 AMRespond ^
The passage quoted below is disingenuous in the extreme. In the first debate, the question was posed to *all* candidates as a *yes-or-no*, show of hands query. Of course Huckabee didn't elaborate at that point. Critique the man for his policies, but, really, this attempt to spin is pathetic in a forum such as this. Quote: "But he has vacillated on how far to interject faith into politics. At an early debate, he indicated he does not believe in evolution, but at a more recent debate, when he was asked by Wolf Blitzer if the creation of the Earth occurred six thousand years ago and only took six days, as stated in the Old Testament, Huckabee said, "I don't know. I wasn't there." End Quote
Posted by:R. JamesDecember 11, 2007 10:35:25 AMRespond ^
I didn't think it possible, but Huckabees equivocates more than our prez, DUH-bya! This guy comes across as a nice, smiling, "compassionate conservative." Beneath the surface lies an rabid fundamentalist. We do not need this kind of Christian-Taliban in any public office, much less the White House! Spread the word about real Mike Huckabee!!
Posted by:RobertDecember 11, 2007 12:07:17 PMRespond ^
If you don't believe that his religious views are bad for politics you should still be able to recognize that his politics are bad for his religion. If I were a Christian and I truly "believed" then I can tell you confidently that I would be able to look you in the eye and say that "I believe the bible and what it says." If you bring evidence before me that contradicts the words therein, I would explain to you that this is why they call my conviction "faith". I have "faith" that these things are true even when there is reason to doubt. Huckaby is ready to deny his faith for his own ambitious goals. He will hide his faith in the shadows. He, like most Christians of his ilk, would be quick to turn there head from the Roman soldier in denial when asked, "Is this man your King, Jew?" This man has no conviction. No faith. You want this as your president? Don’t think that he’d sell out our constitution as easily as his faith to get what he wants? This is why the founders of this country wanted a clear separation of church and state, to make it more difficult for people like this to try and take our freedom.
Posted by:G A CDecember 11, 2007 12:23:46 PMRespond ^
Man. believe it or not, I went to High School with this guy at Hope High School in Hope, Arkansas. This was back in the Sixties and it seemed like Mike wore a suit to school every freaking day. Since we weren't in the same 'social group', Mike was the typical 'hawk' in those days over the Vietnam War and I was the High School 'Flower Child.' But, he always came across as slightly 'spooky'. He didn't drink, he didn't smoke and he didn't dig chicks so we all figured he would turn out to be a mortician. Not a presidential candidate. Wow. How America has changed!!!
Posted by:steppenRazorDecember 11, 2007 3:16:15 PMRespond ^
After his denials (lies) regarding rapist pardons, I as a Democrat hope that the GOP makes Huckabee their candidate; anyone who refrains from disclosing his spiritual sermons has a flock that absorbs lies as they do now from Bush and will harnest the 27% support Bush does now as well. I Heart Huckabee.
Posted by:Anthony LookDecember 11, 2007 4:25:31 PMRespond ^
Clear exposition of what this guy is about. The refusal to provide sermons is most telling. You can be sure that they're just filled with venom. He's got that Nixon chip on his shoulder but smiles all the time. I found this on Huckabee, very dark portrait. http://tinyurl.com/yuebgd The Arkansas alternative and suburban press is doing a real number on him too. Very ugly recent parole (rescinded) and call for a moratorium on paroles by prosecutors and outraged citizens. Quite a guy;)
Posted by:MurrowDecember 12, 2007 1:37:25 AMRespond ^
Conservative Baptists preach the same sermons. You liberal democrats should try attending conservative baptist churches if you want a piece of Huckabee's sermons. GO AHEAD, they've been there ever since this country's formation even drafting the constitution's first ammendments. Don't fool yourselves pretending to be "searching". Just enter one of those churches and those pastors would be very glad to accomodate. It's about time you hear real stories and not just monkey tales -- monkeys turning to humans? It's more believable if humans turn into monkeys like most democrats are.
Posted by:Spiderman2December 12, 2007 6:19:31 AMRespond ^
Huckabee's statements in the pulpit should be of public record. Churches don't pay taxes and in most states are required to hold at least two events each month that are open to the public. Most churches want attendees and open their doors every sunday. In my opinion anything that said during an "open house" is a matter of public record.
Posted by:jahnDecember 12, 2007 7:10:11 AMRespond ^
steppenRazor - High school was an awkward time for most of us and we all change (hopefully for the better). Look at yourself, you're not still a "Flower Child" are you. Last time I was in Hope, I didn't see many. BTW, I love Hope watermelons.
Posted by:RaulDecember 12, 2007 7:15:50 AMRespond ^
I have to say, I would really appreciate a candidate who could willfully admit to being an atheist and move on. Our political system is a sham, plain and simple, and the fact that we vote for such mediocre human beings, is nothing more than a symbolic gesture of our imagined participation in a democratic state. It's amusing that so many Christians express feelings about being persecuted by a debased secular society. It's one of the most extreme cases of outright narcissism I can possibly think of. We basically function, socially, through false appearances, and have no idea where the light is coming from.
Posted by:m.m. gagnonDecember 12, 2007 8:25:31 AMRespond ^
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE!!!!! What he is doing is standing up for the constitution by not trying to bring his "religion" into his politics (Most Evangelicals do not believe in religion, it is a walk of faith. The term Evangelical is represneted as many things and, in this case,is simply a demographic).For him to be a president who is elected by implications of his spiritual leading and not his political logistics(executive experience, record of adminisration, etc.) would be a blatant shoving aside of the constitution.
Posted by:Jacqueline SmithDecember 12, 2007 8:43:20 AMRespond ^
Thank You.
Posted by:JacquelineDecember 12, 2007 8:47:04 AMRespond ^
Would Mr. Corn only explore the extreme, radical views of the church that Obama attends. Tsk, tsk, tsk Mr. Corn. Of course, we all know the mainstream media is not biased.
Posted by:Richard WilliamsDecember 12, 2007 10:33:27 AMRespond ^
You see the things Mike Huckabee says as a drawback. I see them as a positive and it makes me even more willing to vote for him.
Posted by:CHOGANDecember 12, 2007 10:35:27 AMRespond ^
t really is unfortunate that the Huckabigots are interested only in supporting another evangelical and bashing a Mormon. If they would actually look into what these candidates have said and done they will see that Huckabee is VERY liberal on illegal immigration (despite his recent “endorsment”), VERY liberal on foreign policy, and VERY liberal on fiscal issues. Maybe the Huckabigots will wake up before they manage to nominate a candidate who is a sure loser to Hillary in the general.
Posted by:CoryDecember 12, 2007 10:38:48 AMRespond ^
Raul is right. Releasing the sermons would be like casting pearls before swine.
Posted by:Charlie WalksonwaterDecember 12, 2007 10:41:15 AMRespond ^
I have no problem with Huckabee and his sermons. He believes in God, as do I, and I think a true God-fearing man would make a good president. Where I have a problem is his hyprocritical religious attacks on Mitt Romney.
Posted by:BrianDecember 12, 2007 10:42:42 AMRespond ^
What is spoken in church is to a "family" just as conversation in your livingroom is to your family. And what was said 20 years ago has very little bearing on the campaign today.
Posted by:helen henryDecember 12, 2007 10:44:51 AMRespond ^
I would rather have a huckster like him as president that Satan herself Hellary Clinton.
Posted by:Getton CroswallDecember 12, 2007 10:47:18 AMRespond ^
Self-proclaimed "Christian leader" Mike Huckabee can't measure up to Romney in any way or defend his record on spending, taxes, crime, immigration, aids, Cuba, ethics, etc., so he resorts to spouting standard anti-Mormon talking points in order to distract his evangelical base from the issues. He has obviously succeeded to some extent as demonstrated by the absurd posts his supporters place all over the internet. Huckabee is a buffoon who has no chance of being elected. He should apologize and slink back to his snake hole in Arkansas with his own spiritual "brother" Slick Willie Clinton.
Posted by:Concerned ChristianDecember 12, 2007 10:57:29 AMRespond ^
Do we want separation of Church and State or not?
Posted by:MattDecember 12, 2007 10:57:30 AMRespond ^
The left is insisting on Mr. Huckbee's sermons be made public, why does not Hillary and Bubba make her/his/their records public instead of keeping them locked up in his library until after the election?
Posted by:UfdaDecember 12, 2007 10:58:19 AMRespond ^
Hey, wait a second, why all the attacks on Huckabee? I thought Drudge reported that everyone on the Left was going to lay off him until after he got the nomination, since he's such a weak candidate and is bound to lose in the general election. Or could it be that you really want to run against anybody but Huckabee.
Posted by:Curious TexanDecember 12, 2007 11:01:03 AMRespond ^
Huckabee's position is clearly that Huckabee the politician is intrinsically Huckabee the true beleiver. He uses religiosity to appeal to the Christian Fascists and tries to downplay his Christian beliefs to the rest of us.
Posted by:DaveDecember 12, 2007 11:02:43 AMRespond ^
Dear Mr. Huckabee: You can't have your cake, and eat it too, Brother!
Posted by:John GaltDecember 12, 2007 11:04:33 AMRespond ^
Vote "None of thea above."
Posted by:Alex - Memphis, TNDecember 12, 2007 11:10:26 AMRespond ^
Wow! This is a wonderful hit "piece". It just shows the fear that the left has in this coming up election.
Posted by:ChrisDecember 12, 2007 11:10:30 AMRespond ^
Great article--I am a conservative, but I am appalled that a candidate who has been gaining traction by playing the God card now won't fully explain himself. I say that we need total transparency when a candidate claims a certain faith or belief system. Everybody stuck a microscope up Obama's nose to see what he and his pastor believed so why should Huckabee be beyond such questions. Also, I am a Christian.
Posted by:FrankDecember 12, 2007 11:12:05 AMRespond ^
Where is the hit piece on Hillary not disclosing information when Billary was in office?
Posted by:ChrisDecember 12, 2007 11:12:42 AMRespond ^
He should not release the sermons. He is not running for preacher-in-Chief. Let him stand on his political record. Besides, where is the "scandal" in exposing that he is a Christian? What's wrong with that?
Posted by:JoeDecember 12, 2007 11:17:37 AMRespond ^
I am a Baptist pastor. Outside the intended audience, my sermons would not make a great deal of sense. I do not keep complete manuscripts of my sermons and the notes I preach from would likely be very confusing to others who might read them. I preach primarily from an outline and fill in the rest as I go. Preachers who read from manuscripts put people to sleep and may have had someone else write it for them. Huckabee is a Christian. More than that, he has lived his life on his Christian principles. Would that make him a bad president? I don't think so, not if you are a student of history. What did George Washington ask to have immediately following his swearing in as the first president? A party with wine, women and song, maybe? No, he led a large group from the swearing in to a church and participated in a worship service with the purpose being asking God for guidance as he took on this daunting task. Many of our past presidents have had strong faith walks. That does not disqualify them, but gives them a moral base from which to operate. Best of luck, Rev. Huckabee - President Washington would be proud.
Posted by:Rev. F.P. MullinsDecember 12, 2007 11:20:49 AMRespond ^
And the "good" Mother is STONED again - -
Posted by:Al CollierDecember 12, 2007 11:25:52 AMRespond ^
Apparently none of Huckleberry's sermons involved the virtues of dental hygiene. Yuck! Is America really clamoring for a poorly educated rube from Arkansas with bad teeth and ideas that wouldn't have been out of place in the 14th century? This snaggletooth loser should be running a Denny's in Tulsa and leave the governance of the most powerful nation in human history to someone who can count to eleven without taking off their shoes!
Posted by:The Conservative DeflatorDecember 12, 2007 11:28:13 AMRespond ^
Whoops, for some reason there was an extra space in that link to Huckabee's sermon. Here is the link again without the space. http://www.rayfowler.org/2007/11/15 /mike-huckabees-sunday-sermon-at-prestonwood/
Posted by:Ray FowlerDecember 12, 2007 11:32:46 AMRespond ^
When Hillary release here Rose Law Firm records, then Huckabee should release his sermons. This will never happen.
Posted by:DarrylDecember 12, 2007 11:36:30 AMRespond ^
Nope, the space keeps creeping back in. Must be the formatting of the comments. If you paste the link to view the sermon, be sure to remove the space after the "15" in the date.
Posted by:Ray FowlerDecember 12, 2007 11:36:54 AMRespond ^
While I believe Mike Huckabee should stand behind every word he uttered from his two pulpits, I certainly understand his reluctance to do so. A quick sweep of the comments posted here reveals just a smattering of the poor-thinking, mean-spirited, name-calling begotry to which he would be subjected in the main stream press. Huckabee's detractors are not so much interested in learning his positions as they are in gaining ammunition with which to blast him. While the Governor should understand that rocks will be hurled at him, it is a different thing entirely to hand his enemies the stones with which to do the deed! That being said... Go Fred Thompson!
Posted by:JeffDecember 12, 2007 11:40:26 AMRespond ^
America, and the world, can ill afford another ignorant fundamentalist Christian in the White House where he can continue to do such tremendous harm, particularly in the areas of science, public health and reproductive rights. It will take years to unravel the knots that George Bush has put in place in these areas.
Posted by:Woody ReganDecember 12, 2007 11:46:02 AMRespond ^
Religion really isn't the issue no matter how much these people try to make it. Huckabee is a CFR member just like every other Republican candidate EXCEPT for Ron Paul.
Posted by:RedGreenDecember 12, 2007 11:48:31 AMRespond ^
I'm glad that Huckabee won't make his sermons available. I'm sick to death of all the blather about the candidates' religion. When the liberal media start demanding his sermons and parsing them for evidence of his views on everything from the literal truth of the Bible to contemporary social issues, they merely legitimize the notion, already too widespread in the Moron Belt, that the most important qualification for any candidate is his Christian bona fides. Yes, Huckabee's sermons will reveal his attitudes and beliefs on a wide range of subjects, but so will his political speeches, and that ought to sffice. We already know his opinions on abortion, AIDS, gay rights, etc.--what's the point of introducing more shouting about how well the candidates are saying and doing what Jesus would say and do? Enough with the Jesus talk aready, and let's discuss something imoprtant to our nation's future for a change. Like Iraq. Or health care.
Posted by:HollieDecember 12, 2007 11:52:13 AMRespond ^
Religion really isn't the issue no matter how much these people want it to be. Which one supports the Constitution? Every Republican candidate is a CFR member EXCEPT ONE. Guess which one.
Posted by:RedGreenDecember 12, 2007 11:52:34 AMRespond ^
Look, I don't like Mike Huckabee, but when people venomously attack him on the grounds that he is a "religous loon" or too much like George W. Bush, that makes me want to like him, and maybe even vote for him. Still I won't, though.
Posted by:JakeDecember 12, 2007 11:56:10 AMRespond ^
If you want to know what he said in his sermons - go to a Bible believing church and listen. It the same message that has been said for 2000 years, may be worth listening to.
Posted by:ChrisDecember 12, 2007 11:56:25 AMRespond ^
Anyone who has an icon on their front page that says Iraq War Timeline: Lie by Lie, isn't a journalist. Journalism is about revealing facts, not bias and opinion. Fraud.
Posted by:Will BrueggemanDecember 12, 2007 11:58:24 AMRespond ^
Who the Huck!
Posted by:The DevilDecember 12, 2007 12:03:14 PMRespond ^
The Jews don't like Huck because he is a Southern Baptist like Jimmy Carter he says that Israel is like South Africa in that they practice Apartheid.
Posted by:Doc HollidayDecember 12, 2007 12:07:40 PMRespond ^
Hey, JJ, got your bags packed yet? Ha Ha HA aaaaaaaa!!!!!!!
Posted by:dave blessedDecember 12, 2007 12:08:31 PMRespond ^
I agree with the people who said there is no need to release his sermons because they would all make sense to the believer, and it would be fodder for a secular world. You don't meed his sermons not to vote for Huckabee. First, Huckabee is no conservative. He has taxed to the hilt in his state. He just put out a plan against immigration when before he was soft on immigration. He changes with the wind like Clinton. I don't trust Huckabee and it takes more then being conservative on social issues to be president. Mark http://mark24609.blogspot.com/ Well, we have one more year to make money in the stock market and then Hillary Clinton is president. Pues, tenemos un año más para ganar dinero en la bolsa, y luego Hillary Clinton es presidenta.
Posted by:Mark DiasDecember 12, 2007 12:08:59 PMRespond ^
And so the left proves once again that bigotry and ignorance is not concepts dominated by the right. Congratulations!
Posted by:JuliaDecember 12, 2007 12:09:13 PMRespond ^
It's better to see Huck's sermons now than after the primaries. What if he made a sermon misrepresenting and attacking mormon beliefs (all too common in Southern Baptist churches). Losing Nevada, Idaho and Utah will lose the election. (Nevada had a razor thin margin in '04, losing mormons would tip the balance for sure) No doubt, if he spewed the same hate about mormons that is all to common on these boards the Democrats will find it, show it, and pound on it all day.
Posted by:NateDecember 12, 2007 12:12:52 PMRespond ^
The New Testament Jewish leaders were afraid of Jesus Christ because he preached the truth along with compassion,love and forgivness. Those attributes frighten people that don't have or want them. Do you see any similarity here with all the adverse comments and the media?
Posted by:Galen JohnDecember 12, 2007 12:13:21 PMRespond ^
LOOKING FOR SERMONS FROM HUCKABEE? I WONDER WHY THESE PEOPLE WANT TO READ A SERMON? I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT IF THEY DID... THEY NEED A GOOD SERMON. MAYBE A MIRACLE WOULD HAPPEN AND THEY WOULD GET CONVERTED !
Posted by:HUBERT WRIGHTDecember 12, 2007 12:14:57 PMRespond ^
Huckabee's flip-flop on the AIDS issue exposes the hypocritical lie of his supposedly faith-based hatred of homosexuality. When he thought it was just gays getting AIDS, he would've isolated them and not provided funding for AIDS research. Once he became convinced of the fact that straight people could contract AIDS, he changed his mind about the funding and the isolation of those who contract the virus. This exposes the convenient lie of claiming "I hate the sin, not the sinner." He would not hold straight people in contempt, or even responsible for their own sexual misconduct and irresponsibility. He would not isolate them and would be willing to fund research for a cure to their sexually transmitted disease. Gays, on the other hand, should be isolated and left to die without any assistance. Sorry Mike. You hate gays. And you use the Bible to justify your own hatred. You, and others like you, are nothing more than hypocritical Pharisees who believe that calling someone else an abomination impresses the Creator with your own superiority. Puke.
Posted by:CarolDecember 12, 2007 12:20:54 PMRespond ^
I think no one could live up to the scutiny that Huckabee is being assailed with now. Have any of you said anything over that last twenty years that you would not say today, especially if you were speaking as a candidate for president? The fact is, there is such an anti-Christian sentiment by some, that they will now attack any public figure who is a person who follows Jesus Christ. Yes, there are some mean-spirited hypocritical people who claim to be Christians, but I am seeing some comments against Huckabee that are also mean spirited and hypocritical here.
Posted by:john nDecember 12, 2007 12:21:02 PMRespond ^
I have voted republican my whole life, but I probably would never vote for Huckabee if it was between him and any democrat for President. He is so radical and looney. I can't believe he is doing well. Hopefully the voters will wake up before primaries and realize how crazy he is. He would never win the presidency.
Posted by:CaseyDecember 12, 2007 12:26:29 PMRespond ^
Most Americans don't believe the evolution storyline. What's the big deal? Why so scared of Christians anyway? Huckabee's a good man.
Posted by:joeDecember 12, 2007 12:27:57 PMRespond ^
gee, if it wasn't so terrifying, I'd laugh 'til I cried... could it be... because he believes in the Separation of Church & STATE? hell no. Does it mean the ReichWing is winning? well, unfortunately, it demonstrates that 80 years of propaganda is coming to fruition. Why can he get away with it? BECAUSE: they've convinced people that professing their Xianity is the only TEST of CHARACTER. Why not? they've taught them NOTHING ELSE in AMERICAN MEDIA: its all one BIG POPULARITY CONTEST from birth until death. Its all one big sales job on how one's IMAGE is more important than the CONTENT of their character. WORK HARD. SHOP HARD. The APPEARANCE of prosperity will lead to PROSPERITY & consumption to create a better, more AFFLUENT PERSONA. Sick. its really, really sick. BlueBerry Pick'n can be found @ ThisCanadian.com ~~~ "We, two, form a Multitude" ~ Ovid. ~~~ "Silent Freedom is Freedom Silenced"
Posted by:BlueBerry Pick'nDecember 12, 2007 12:29:58 PMRespond ^
The reason Huckabee's sermons are relevant and should be made available is not so one side or another may find fodder for attack, but so the voters may have a fuller insight into the man who now looks poised to win the Iowa caucuses. Corn and Stein left out a public pronouncement of Huckabee's that a wife should be subservient to her husband - which, ironically or not, is identical to the teachings of Willard Mitt Romney's church. If the equality of women and men is important to you as a voter, as it is to me, this is relevant information to have before entering a voting booth. Further, the same question may be fairly posed of Huckabee and Hillary Clinton, whose husband's presidential library has been slow to make public a slew of documents from her time as First Lady. What you are trying to hide?
Posted by:Michael HeisterDecember 12, 2007 12:32:59 PMRespond ^
These republicans and the evangelical right have made religion a big thing. Now republicans want to cry foul about being checked up on their faith seems a little strange. These guys will say anything and do anything to have the evangelical vote, these guys are so phony and hypocritical.
Posted by:NickDecember 12, 2007 12:34:28 PMRespond ^
Sounds like the right guy to me. Thanks for publishing this. It served to give Huckabee at least one more vote. BTW - the Bible doesn't say that the earth is only 6K yearsold - although some have deduced that. You should get your facts straight when trying to represent the Bible.
Posted by:Kent WatsonDecember 12, 2007 12:34:49 PMRespond ^
Just remember after they come for all the Christians and any other group they seem to think has a problem we will all be unhappy. We need to elect good people with true convictions. I am not sure yet if that is Huckabee but we all have things in our past and either we put an end to this crap or the person who pays the media the most and who is a hardest to nail down is going to be all that is left. It that what we really want?? Both sides need to calm down and realize once the US in gone there is nothing worth fighting for and we need to be Americians first and parties second.
Posted by:MikeDecember 12, 2007 12:38:07 PMRespond ^
Only STOOPID LIBTARD would inject a man's SERMON'S into a political debate. You're just a bunch of stupid atheists who have no answers for ANY THING and resent those who feel that they DO. HELL AWAITS YOU.
Posted by:K.DIGGSDecember 12, 2007 12:38:09 PMRespond ^
Beware--if he does release the sermons, some nonbelievers might be transformed by the power of Jesus Christ. This could be dangerous for those of you clinging to your anti-Christian biases.
Posted by:Martin LutherDecember 12, 2007 12:38:18 PMRespond ^
Tornados aren't acts of God? No six-day creationist worth his salt should be capable of saying such a thing. If they aren't acts of God, it means there are phenomena entirely beyond God's control. What kind of a God creates a universe that He can't control? Can such a God even guarantee salvation? If Huckabee can't acknowledge that natural disasters are acts of God, he's got a pretty shallow Christian theology. Any Christian should be willing to acknowledge that even calamities occur as matters of divine providence, which we, with our limited understanding, cannot hope to fully fathom.
Posted by:Christopher WitmerDecember 12, 2007 12:40:23 PMRespond ^
FRANK. You're an IDIOT. Politics is a BLOODSPORT you dunce. And only a retard would HAND his opponents ammunition against him. Funny, how you don't want that COMMUNIST piece of CRAP called HILLARY to release HER records of all her "presidential" experience. You liberal dumbass TROLL.
Posted by:k.DIGGSDecember 12, 2007 12:41:12 PMRespond ^
How is it that Huck isn't making his sermons available when it's actually a couple of little churches he worked for twenty or so years ago who are being badgered for the archival material? Given that most SBC preachers give three sermons a week (over 150 a year), it would be a daunting and expensive task to maintain archives just so liberal "journalists" could cherry pick sound bites years later. And the churches are undoubtedly being slammed with requests from hundreds of puny scribes who fancy themselves as "investigative journalists." Suffice it to say that Huck's sermons from the Reagan era would tell almost nothing about how he would handle the presidency. This is a ridiculous non-issue. Corn must be slipping.
Posted by:SpeedzzterDecember 12, 2007 12:41:43 PMRespond ^
He blamed the murderer for the murders? That makes sense to me. Seriously, should we be this partisan?
Posted by:waitaminuteDecember 12, 2007 12:42:37 PMRespond ^
I cant believe anyone takes Huckabee seriously this is a man who: -wanted to isolate AIDS patients -thinks that the cause of being gay is a "disease" -Raised taxes more than ANY of the GOP candidates -Looked the other way for hundreds of criminals and pardoned them -has a son who hung a dog from a tree -has a son who was busted for having an illegal gun Cant we just elect an honest President with a clear, consistent, humble, and financially sound policy for a change? Ron Paul is the only candidate we can trust and count on. Do your own research and watch some of his youtube.com videos, and read the news stories on: www.ronpaulforpresident2008.com www.thecaseforronpaul.com
Posted by:BNJDecember 12, 2007 12:43:32 PMRespond ^
Dear Corn and Stein: The Gospel, the real Gospel is not hidden. Try John 14:6 for starters: "I am the way the truth and the life, NO ONE comes to the Father except through me". (Jesus) Then Phillip says (paraphrasing): "Jesus, why don't you just show us the Father. To which Jesus replies: "When you have seen me , you have seen the Father" This was, and still is, radical stuff, Dudes
Posted by:Jan HusDecember 12, 2007 12:45:45 PMRespond ^
A vote for Huckabee is a vote for Hillary
Posted by:DustinDecember 12, 2007 12:45:53 PMRespond ^
It is funny that people are so interested in what Huckabee said and yet find it so distasteful to delve into the inner workings of Mormonism. Oh but then again Huckabee is in front now. By the way Jed, nothing in the Old Testament was random as you suggest. Nice try though.
Posted by:John SmithDecember 12, 2007 12:46:33 PMRespond ^
What elected office did Falwell hold? While one may disagree with Huck on various issues, it's simply irrational to suggest that a former governor of Arkansas with over a decade of secular public service is "Jerry Falwell II."
Posted by:SpeedzzterDecember 12, 2007 12:46:40 PMRespond ^
Hey KP Maybe he doesn't want you reading his sermon because you're not a Christian and they weren't written for you! Perhaps he knows that you'll do what your father (satan) did to Jesus, which is to TRY to use scripture against him. I say TRY because when stupid liberal idiots quote scripture the result is predictably laughable.
Posted by:k.DIGGSDecember 12, 2007 12:49:03 PMRespond ^
Rev. F.P. Mullins: Of course you would support him. "Birds of a feather..."
Posted by:DebrarDecember 12, 2007 12:49:09 PMRespond ^
For Corn and Stein: " Before Abraham was, I am" (Jesus) John 8;58 When He said this, he was accused of blasphemy, because he was using the "I am" phrase of Jehovah. One of Huckabees sermons might provide more details. Better yet, just read John's Gospel account
Posted by:John WycliffeDecember 12, 2007 12:51:13 PMRespond ^
I think Huckabee is the most dangerous candidate out there when it comes to keeping religion. Not all of us want our morality legislated. Here are a bunch more quotes from him on religion. http://www.godandstate.com/2007/11/26/mike-huckabee-on-religion/
Posted by:LKDecember 12, 2007 12:51:29 PMRespond ^
Uhhhhh... shouldn't you be calling him "Governor"? Oh yeah, forgot, he IS running on the Baptist ticket, not the Presidential one. Huckabee for Baptist Preacher 2008!!
Posted by:DebrarDecember 12, 2007 12:51:34 PMRespond ^
Beware of wolves in sheep's clothing.
Posted by:HankDecember 12, 2007 12:52:34 PMRespond ^
Rev. F. P. Mullins: Uhhhhh... shouldn't you be calling him "Governor"? Oh yeah, forgot, he IS running on the Baptist ticket, not the Presidential one. Huckabee for Baptist Preacher 2008!!
Posted by:DebrarDecember 12, 2007 12:53:28 PMRespond ^
Unfortunately, Huckabee the candidate has been defined by huckabee, the preacher. They can't be divorced...The religious right are always WRONG...
Posted by:Christopher FlynnDecember 12, 2007 12:54:17 PMRespond ^
Huckabee is a "holier than thou" Baptist. He has brought forth religion as an issue, forcing Mitt Romney the "have to answer" questions about his faith - such as" Do you believe Jesus is your savior" of course he does. How sad and bigoted this has become.
Posted by:Nancy BloughDecember 12, 2007 12:54:45 PMRespond ^
why does anyone want to know about what Hukabee said in his semon's.some want to ridecule all preachers and he is smart enough to say NO!..besides some in this world could care less about the word of GOD all they care about is distroying the man....i say no to public hearing of his sermons>
Posted by:sureasme@suddenlink.netDecember 12, 2007 12:56:26 PMRespond ^
Christopher Witmer, It is your theology that is in question not Hucks. The bible says that the reason that there are natural disasters is the same reason that people KILL innocent people. God, did do it. The bibles position, you illiterate know it all is that the Romans 8:22 22For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now. The explanation, because I know you don't understand it, is that ORIGINAL SIN caused God's entire creation to suffer, not without His knowledge and not with His cooperation. It is a result of free will which is why the Lord doesn't intervene. He offered himself slain as a sacrifice by which you could avoid the wrath to come.
Posted by:k.DIGGSDecember 12, 2007 12:56:44 PMRespond ^
Huckabee is a "Hell, Fire, and Damnation" Baptist. The Lord Jesus's agenda is one of foregiveness.
Posted by:SlatDecember 12, 2007 12:57:01 PMRespond ^
Actually Christopher, it should read "God DIDN'T DO IT."
Posted by:k.DIGGSDecember 12, 2007 12:57:59 PMRespond ^
"When Mother Jones contacted the Huckabee campaign and asked if it would help make his previous sermons available, the campaign replied in a one-sentence email that it had received multiple requests for such material and was 'not able to accommodate' them." How could a shoe-string campaign that can't afford even to take any private polls (and flies the Candidate around on commercial flights) accommodate a demand for thousands of pages of irrelevant documents (assuming such archives were even maintained -- a conservative estimate of such archives would be about 20,000 pages) This is much ado about absolutely nothing. Besides, Huck has his own rock band and wants to close Gitmo. Surely that ought to buy him a little grace with the MoJo crowd . . . .
Posted by:SpeedzzterDecember 12, 2007 12:59:48 PMRespond ^
Non-believers in evolution are already a laughingstock among real scientists. Since science (all sciences) is the most imoportant pursuit of a country, we cannot have a laughingstock as our leader. And can you imagine... "President Huckabee"?? I know it's wrong to say, but how can we have a president with the name Huckabee?? It sounds so hokey.
Posted by:EvanDecember 12, 2007 1:00:10 PMRespond ^
Mike Huckabee is the target in Iowa now, a couple of weeks ago nobody even concerned themselves with him. His backing of the Fair Tax and his stated position on Immigration will make him a winner.
Posted by:Ron RoseDecember 12, 2007 1:00:40 PMRespond ^
YOU DON'T HAVE THE SLIGHTEST CLUE AS TO THE LORD'S "AGENDA". Here libtard read from Jesus' mouth his "agenda'. MATT 10:34,35 34Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. 35For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. 36And a man's foes shall be they of his own household. 37He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. 38And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me. 39He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it. JESUS came to overthrow your stupid liberal 'theology" . YOu know nothing about his mission because you don't have what He left for you. Hint" Acts 2:4 Acts 1:4-8,
Posted by:k.DIGGSDecember 12, 2007 1:01:18 PMRespond ^
Hey kdiggs, I'll tell you what's laughable-any idiot believing in a loving god that could, by his infinite powers, cure the world of all its ills and doesn't do it. I believe he/she or it is a sado-masochist like most christian right-wingers....
Posted by:Christopher FlynnDecember 12, 2007 1:02:35 PMRespond ^
Why in the world are his beliefs not important but Mitt Romneys are? He should release all of it. I want to know how bigoted he really is.
Posted by:MadmomDecember 12, 2007 1:02:37 PMRespond ^
Huck seems like an alright guy, but listen up GOP'ers.....Romney is the only candidate we have who can beat Clinton. He is the only candidate in the race who satnds on higer ground and whose integrity cannot be challenged. Hucakbee (pardon the expression) doesn't have a chance in Hell beating Lady Clinton.
Posted by:OtleyDecember 12, 2007 1:02:53 PMRespond ^
The only reason you want his sermons is to pick them apart out of context so you can force him into your preconceived caricature of a religious nut. Maybe his candidacy will make liberal elites like Mother Jones finally face its bigotry toward Evangelical Christianity. Read all the comments post. Almost everyone is filled with angrey words of religious persecution.
Posted by:Darian BurnsDecember 12, 2007 1:05:36 PMRespond ^
Mr. Huckabee is correct to withhold his sermons from the press. True Christians are given understanding of the Bible via the Holy Spirit. Nonbelievers have no such understanding and only twist God's words to their own benifit. Oh, by the way, when is Bill and Hill going to release all the papers in the Clinton Library?
Posted by:mikeDecember 12, 2007 1:07:56 PMRespond ^
Ridiculous. He has no ability to "release his sermons"... He does not have them under lock and key in a bank vault. Only his former church would release those and they are apparently not in favor of their release. I've known Mike Huckabee since I was a teen. He is a man of integrity and I seriously doubt he would have any problem "releasing" his excellent sermons. You people who call label him a fanatic should label yourselves as fools. We are all fanatics about something. YOU are probably a fanatic atheist, agnostic or secularist. Is Billy Graham a fanatic? His views are right in line with Huckabee and he is revered as an icon of the past century.
Posted by:CSDecember 12, 2007 1:07:57 PMRespond ^
As a Christian, I invite all of the liberals and skeptics on this board to come to a good conservative Baptist church. Not one of the prosperity preachers on TV, but a good Bible-believing church that believes in Jesus Christ. Come and stay for 1 month, and just take notes on each of the sermons you hear. I'm seriously inviting you, for one month. You are welcome.
Posted by:ChristianDecember 12, 2007 1:08:44 PMRespond ^
I am always suprised at how quickly those who disagree with one's religious views quickly retort to ad hominem attacks such as "loon." I guess those who are religious are just not as smart as those who aren't?!
Posted by:JoshDecember 12, 2007 1:09:29 PMRespond ^
Im a fanatic about constitutional rights, lower taxes, small government, and free trade...that is why Im voting for Ron Paul. Religious fanatics dont belong in office pushing their fanaticisim on the general public.
Posted by:BNJDecember 12, 2007 1:09:54 PMRespond ^
Why wait? Get the hell out now!
Posted by:mikeDecember 12, 2007 1:10:16 PMRespond ^
"This exposes the convenient lie of claiming "I hate the sin, not the sinner." He would not hold straight people in contempt, or even responsible for their own sexual misconduct and irresponsibility. He would not isolate them and would be willing to fund research for a cure to their sexually transmitted disease. Gays, on the other hand, should be isolated and left to die without any assistance." This isn't what Huck said! To quarantine someone with an infectious disease does not mean to leave them without treatment! In the early years of the HIV/AIDS epidemic, serious, thoughful persons who were not totally in-the-bag for the homosexual rights lobby considered a variety of alternatives to stop the spread of the disease. While a quarantine would not have worked (and would have been too expensive to boot), merely suggesting one does not mean a conduct-based double standard, nor does it suggest an inherent lack of compassion or proper treatment.
Posted by:Public Health ExpertDecember 12, 2007 1:11:46 PMRespond ^
He is a true BIGOT! Not a good man.
Posted by:MadmomDecember 12, 2007 1:11:52 PMRespond ^
I study the bible daily and I can't think of one "random" act performed by God. Perhaps you should seek to understand before you seek to be understood...
Posted by:cudweedsDecember 12, 2007 1:13:33 PMRespond ^
Hey Hank, did you know that the Devil is famous for quoting scripture? Forgot about your past did you?
Posted by:mikeDecember 12, 2007 1:13:39 PMRespond ^
Enough already with the religious belief of Mike Huckabee. Have you not read the U.S. Constitution? In case you haven't, I'll quote for you the relevant part. The last sentence of Article VI of the U.S. Constitution states "but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States". So, unless Mother Jones and David Corn are interested in reporting for us the details of Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi's religious views, leave Mr. Huckabee's alone as well.
Posted by:mijgrebDecember 12, 2007 1:14:18 PMRespond ^
I am a member of the LDS church (aka Mormon) and I don't think that Huckabee's sermons belong in the news media as they relate to his campaign. Christian said it best in his post at 1:08 - if you want to hear what the Baptists preach, go to their church and see for yourself. It isn't a matter of casting pearls before swine or anything like that - the point is that Huckabee, like Romney, is running for President of the USA. I'm not saying you shouldn't be able to take his religion into account as to how it informs his value system, but his sermons are based on doctrine of his church, which has no place in our political system whatsoever. Leave his faith alone (even if he doesn't afford others the same courtesy).
Posted by:MikeDecember 12, 2007 1:18:29 PMRespond ^
mijgreb, He is the one making religion the hallmark of his campaign. He is the one that keeps bringing Romneys faith into the mix. I see when it is turned around on him it makes him uncomfortable
Posted by:MadmomDecember 12, 2007 1:18:56 PMRespond ^
JJ do you need a suitcase...Start packing loser.
Posted by:mikeDecember 12, 2007 1:19:14 PMRespond ^
This guy scares me!!!
Posted by:JudyDecember 12, 2007 1:21:53 PMRespond ^
Here we go again. Christians are the reason we have all the problems in society today. Christians are evil. Get it straight. Most Christians set very high moral values for themselves. There is nothing wrong with expecting morality in society. People with lifestyle agendas, sorry. Your sick twisted agendas that make your lifestyle choice seem justified are whats tearing society apart.
Posted by:kmpkDecember 12, 2007 1:22:57 PMRespond ^
Why should he release sermons? He is not campaigning for a pulpit. I do not believe he is running for president on his record as a preacher. Why are the liberals so concerned about his sermons? How does that concern him or us? On the other hand Hillary is using her experience as second lady to say she is qualified to be number one. What about her "records"? What about certain files that she could not "find" from her law firm? Where is the outcry about this???
Posted by:Larry DDecember 12, 2007 1:23:00 PMRespond ^
I am just so appalled at this constant hammering about religion in this election process. May I recommend MORAL MINORITY by Brooke Adams to everyone, candidates and newscasters alike. The founding fathers would be not just rolling but spinning in their graves. Unfortunately, the media, instead of jumping up and screaming that the constitution forbids this everytime one of these religious hucksters opens their mouths, they pander to it and so it continues.
Posted by:mastifflawDecember 12, 2007 1:23:36 PMRespond ^
It doesn't matter what Huckabee does - leave his faith alone. Article VI is there for a reason - to stop a form of bigotry that should be offensive to anyone (Christian, Atheist & everyone in between). THIS IS AMERICA!
Posted by:MikeDecember 12, 2007 1:25:03 PMRespond ^
I still want to see David Corn give the Democrats the same treatment. He never will.
Posted by:mijgrebDecember 12, 2007 1:25:35 PMRespond ^
The most revealing anecdote in this article is that where Huckabee refused to provide disaster relief because the term "acts of God," a specific legal term that has nothing to do with whether God is vicious or not, didn't sound like the words he'd choose for a personal sermon. He thus acted in what Bible-reading Christians might call Pharisaical; where the value of appearances trumps actions of mercy. If this article is accurate, and if Huckabee didn't merely send the draft back for quick revision and swiftly sign the new version (as in, within a few hours), then he is someone who has put sectarian nitpicking ahead of his secular duties. While some may think his ideas about creationism ludicrous, that's not the issue at all. The only question is whether he will use his office to evangelize rather than to serve. The article only gives one pertinent example, and it comes at the very end, but nonetheless, there it is.
Posted by:Preston McConkieDecember 12, 2007 1:27:01 PMRespond ^
By the President of the United States of America. Whereas, the Senate of the United States, devoutly recognizing the Supreme Authority and just Government of Almighty God, in all the affairs of men and of nations, has, by a resolution, requested the President to designate and set apart a day for National prayer and humiliation. And whereas it is the duty of nations as well as of men, to own their dependence upon the overruling power of God, to confess their sins and transgressions, in humble sorrow, yet with assured hope that genuine repentance will lead to mercy and pardon; and to recognize the sublime truth, announced in the Holy Scriptures and proven by all history, that those nations only are blessed whose God is the Lord... ...We have been the recipients of the choicest bounties of Heaven. We have been preserved, these many years, in peace and prosperity. We have grown in numbers, wealth and power, as no other nation has ever grown. But we have forgotten God. We have forgotten the gracious hand which preserved us in peace, and multiplied and enriched and strengthened us; and we have vainly imagined, in the deceitfulness of our hearts, that all these blessings were produced by some superior wisdom and virtue of our own. Intoxicated with unbroken success, we have become too self-sufficient to feel the necessity of redeeming and preserving grace, too proud to pray to the God that made us! It behooves us then, to humble ourselves before the offended Power, to confess our national sins, and to pray for clemency and forgiveness. Now, therefore, in compliance with the request, and fully concurring in the views of the Senate, I do, by this my proclamation, designate and set apart Thursday, the 30th. day of April, 1863, as a day of national humiliation, fasting and prayer. And I do hereby request all the People to abstain, on that day, from their ordinary secular pursuits, and to unite, at their several places of public worship and their respective homes, in keeping the day holy to the Lord, and devoted to the humble discharge of the religious duties proper to that solemn occasion. All this being done, in sincerity and truth, let us then rest humbly in the hope authorized by the Divine teachings, that the united cry of the Nation will be heard on high, and answered with blessings, no less than the pardon of our national sins, and the restoration of our now divided and suffering Country, to its former happy condition of unity and peace. By the President: Abraham Lincoln
Posted by:MI6December 12, 2007 1:28:07 PMRespond ^
I agree with you on Ron Paul is also an interesting candidate for the reasons you listed. However, Mike Huckabee is not "pushing" any kind of fanatical view the media is doing it. Your constitutional rights, by the way, are largely derived from biblical tenants Yes, it would be a terrible thing to have a president who believes in Thou Shalt Not Lie, Thou Shalt not Commit Adultery, Thou Shalt Not Steal, ... terrible things to believe in.
Posted by:CSDecember 12, 2007 1:28:27 PMRespond ^
I suppose you believe that Christianity, and those who live according to its teaching, is responsible for giving us: drug abuse, violent crime, current divorce rates, single parent households, etc?
Posted by:mijgrebDecember 12, 2007 1:29:00 PMRespond ^
I thought you Libs believed in "Separation of Church and State". I guess your really don't. or maybe you are the the true Hypocrites.
Posted by:TimDecember 12, 2007 1:29:13 PMRespond ^
Thank you. I was dumbfounded and appalled when our default Gov refused to sign for relief after the tornado day from hell. Equally amazed at his denial of responsibility for the VERY costly state computer program purchase, zeroing out state funding for meals on wheels, releasing a murderer from prison and on and on and on and on....
Posted by:DianeDecember 12, 2007 1:32:04 PMRespond ^
The most revealing anecdote in this article is that where Huckabee refused to provide disaster relief because the term "acts of God," a legitimate legal term that has nothing to do with whether God is vicious or not, didn't sound like the words he'd choose for a personal sermon. He thus acted in what Bible-reading Christians might call Pharisaical; where appearances are considered more important than "mercy and judgment." If this article is accurate, and if Huckabee didn't merely send the draft back for quick revision and swiftly sign the new version (as in, within a few hours), then he is someone who has put sectarian nitpicking ahead of his secular duties. While some may think his ideas about creationism are ludicrous, that's not the issue at all. Ludicrous ideas take all sorts of form, not just religious; Hillary Clinton's ideas about economics, for instance, are just as dependent on faith unsupported by hard evidence as, say, the story of Adam and Eve. The only question is whether Huckabee will use his office to evangelize rather than to serve. The article only gives one pertinent example, and it comes at the very end--but nonetheless, there it is.
Posted by:Preston McConkieDecember 12, 2007 1:32:51 PMRespond ^
Notice that only the Republican's religion is in question...I think some people should look into Hillary or Obama's beliefs...I say that if someone of the caucasian race held the views that Obama's church held only about Caucasians, then they would be considered racist...look into it.
Posted by:jdDecember 12, 2007 1:35:31 PMRespond ^
Mr. Corn, hate God much? It has been the press who has put Gov. Huckabee's job as a preacher in the forefront of his political run for the White House. He hasn't once been shy about his beliefs or where he stands on his faith when asked. However, using clips of what he has said in the past without framing the full context is reckless and irresponsible. I hate to use those two adjectives, but they seem to fit when I read this story.
Posted by:JeffDecember 12, 2007 1:37:07 PMRespond ^
It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and the Bible! --President George Washington
Posted by:MI6December 12, 2007 1:40:49 PMRespond ^
Hmmmm Corn and Stein? Are they simple Anti-Christian bigots or worse? The people who founded, established, and sacrificed to make the U.S. a country with a Constitution and Bill of Rights were Huckabee's... not the people who came much later.
Posted by:MikeDecember 12, 2007 1:41:18 PMRespond ^
We have staked the future of American civilization upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God. --President James Madison
Posted by:MI6December 12, 2007 1:41:35 PMRespond ^
The Bible is the best of all books, for it is the word of God and teaches us the way to be happy in this world and in the next. Continue therefore to read it and to regulate your life by its precepts. --John Jay - 1st Chief-Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court
Posted by:MikeDecember 12, 2007 1:42:39 PMRespond ^
Look, you knuckleheads, if he is going to publish everything he wrote, then you need to be fair. Ask the other candidates to publish their emails and all memos they every wrote at any job. Or their diary's, anything he wrote in the political realm is fine. His JOB is his job and we would need to be fair.
Posted by:RickDecember 12, 2007 1:42:46 PMRespond ^
We believe that all men are created equal because they are created in the image of God. --President Harry S. Truman
Posted by:JohnDecember 12, 2007 1:43:08 PMRespond ^
John Adams and John Hancock: We Recognize No Sovereign but God, and no King but Jesus! [April 18, 1775]
Posted by:LivinFreeDecember 12, 2007 1:44:21 PMRespond ^
For what purpose would Huckebee display his sermons to people who might be unbelievers. When an unbeliever reads the Bible or sermons taken from the Bible they are without the supernatural power in which it is written. In order to get the real meaning of God's Word you must have the Holy Spirit of God in which it was given in order to get the true meaning. God's Word says you must be born again in the Spirit to receive spiritual understanding. I say this with the hope all who read this might experience God's free gift of His Son Jesus Christ in payment for our sins. It is free...just ask Jesus to come into your heart. He will change your life completely to one that honors Him. Jesus can be your very best friend.
Posted by:ShirleyDecember 12, 2007 1:44:59 PMRespond ^
Benjamin Franklin: | Portrait of Ben Franklin “ God governs in the affairs of man. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without his notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without His aid? We have been assured in the Sacred Writings that except the Lord build the house, they labor in vain that build it. I firmly believe this. I also believe that, without His concurring aid, we shall succeed in this political building no better than the builders of Babel” –Constitutional Convention of 1787
Posted by:BenFDecember 12, 2007 1:45:12 PMRespond ^
Patrick Henry: "Orator of the Revolution." • This is all the inheritance I can give my dear family. The religion of Christ can give them one which will make them rich indeed.” —The Last Will and Testament of Patrick Henry
Posted by:MI6December 12, 2007 1:45:47 PMRespond ^