O.K., enough of the 'global warming' innuendo. There are some scientists who believe that 'global warming' is just a liberal ploy to encourage low-birth rates and that these odd temperatures are the result of too many marijuana grows world-wide. I believe that we should support world-trade and increase the particulate count in the atmosphere (say, by use of more coal-burning power systems in China) thereby blocking the sun's rays. Those of us with sufficient wealth can move about the planet in private jets and follow the cool weather.

HP

You are right about China burning coal and being the biggest polluter. In America, we do not manufacture any more, because we are clean and green. The Chinese should buy our technology so they can have less smog.

Everyone is a skeptic until their house is submerged.

i really want to see th article on cheep solar but it send it all messed up with the left column over the post and the body of the article why everything else is ok are you being infiltrated?? can you send it to medirectly.??

No matter what people believe or do not believe about Global Warming things are happening and the world is going through changes in climate.
It should not matter weather we think it caused by us or not we still should not trash the earth that we need to live on.
Political beliefs cannot stop an earthquake or calm a storm.

We do not inherit the earth we only borrow it from or grandchildren.

Lee,

What exactly are you smoking? Or, were you being sarcastic?

China has finally surpassed the U.S., a bit ahead of schedule, meaning we're roughly equal. However, they have almost 4 times as many people in their country as we do, meaning each U.S. resident is still polluting 4 times as much as each Chinese resident.

So, by a very real definition of who is polluting, we in the U.S. must do everything we can to reduce climate change. There is, quite literally, no one that can do more. This is because there is, quite literally, no one that pollutes more.

We blame China for the pollution it produces, but much of that pollution is attributable to Americans. The Chinese now manufacture most of the stuff we used to manufacture here. We buy all that stuff from them today at much lower cost than we'd pay if it was produced here because both labor energy and carbon energy are much cheaper in China than here. Our demand for their stuff drives much of their growth in energy demand. We not only exported our manufacturing jobs to them, we also exported a large portion of our factory based pollution to them and as long as our demand for their cheap stuff continues we are simply displacing "our" manufacturing pollution from here to there. The fact the "manufactured" dirty air is over there instead of here is of no relevance in the context of global warming. Our consumerism drives much, if not most, of the pollution there.

Excellent point Bob!! So, our consumerist mentality has simply externalized a lot of its environmental consequences causing much of China to lose any hope of seeing a blue sky any time in the near future. Of course, the climate change is still global. And, since their regulations are lower than ours, they probably pollute more than we would if we produced it here. Then we pollute further by shipping from there to here. Yikes!!

Thanks for the wake up call on that one. I have no idea how I had missed that point until now.

If you really want to know the main source of global warming, check High-frequency Active Auroral Research Program at http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/cam.fcgi. Think of it, if it can melt the north pole, imagine what it would do for the tropics, a Venus type atmosphere, that's what. Have you notice all those HAARP-type antennae being planted for trees all over? Have you noticed the freak weather and the bolts of lightning even in clear skies striking people, those antennas poles? This is only the beginning. Our brains are being fried with HAARP.
http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/schumann.html

Starlady,

(snark)
We do need to reduce population on this planet. But, still, feel free to come back down to Earth. It really is the only habitable planet within traveling distance from here given current technology.
(/snark)

Seriously though, the only mention of climate on the alaska.edu site was from the FAQ page. I think if you're looking for sources of climate change, stick with the peer reviewed scientific journals. Here's the FAQ page quote:

Is HAARP capable of affecting the weather?
The HAARP facility will not affect the weather. Transmitted energy in the frequency ranges that will be used by HAARP is not absorbed in either the troposphere or the stratosphere - the two levels of the atmosphere that produce the earth's weather. Electromagnetic interactions only occur in the near-vacuum of the rarefied region above about 70 km known as the ionosphere.

The ionosphere is created and continuously replenished as the sun's radiation interacts with the highest levels of the Earth's atmosphere. The downward coupling from the ionosphere to the stratosphere/troposphere is extremely weak, and no association between natural ionospheric variability and surface weather and climate has been found, even at the extraordinarily high levels of ionospheric turbulence that the sun can produce during a geomagnetic storm. If the ionospheric storms caused by the sun itself don't affect the surface weather, there is no chance that HAARP can do so either.

And, what is Nexus Magazine? From their own page:

NEXUS is an international bi-monthly alternative news magazine, covering the fields of: Health Alternatives; Suppressed Science; Earth's Ancient Past; UFOs & the Unexplained; and Government Cover-Ups.

In other words, a bunch of crackpots. These sound like the kinds of people that don't believe we went to the moon, despite tremendous evidence and documentation and actual moon rocks, but believe that the government has somehow subdued aliens with far greater technology than our own and is hiding their bodies in Arizona somewhere. Umm ... Right.

HAARP can affect the weather and it does. I know but I can't tell you how, since it is top secret. But we are way ahead of China.

Nice try Coast to Coast. Having had a clearance once myself, I can tell you that if that were true and you had the clearance to know it, you would be in huge trouble just for saying that much.

You are right Scott. But they can't catch me. Remember we are dealing with stupid government non workers.