This Little Piggy Goes Home
A kinder, gentler, and more convenient abattoir.
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"here, piggy piggy," calls the man peering through the early-morning fog into a livestock trailer, a .22-caliber rifle in his hands. It is 7 a.m. in farm country outside Santa Rosa, California. A rooster crows. "Here we go. Right here."
He raises the rifle to his shoulder and takes aim. BAM! There's a thud, and a few excited squeals from the remaining pigs behind the bars. Carefully, the man sets down the gun and steps into the trailer. He emerges dragging a small, dead—but still twitching—reddish pig with a bullet hole the diameter of a pencil eraser just about perfectly centered in its forehead.
Meet John Taylor, or "One Shot Johnny," as his customers call him. His business card offers just "JT's Custom Slaughtering" and his cell phone number, along with clip art of a cow, pig, sheep, and lamb. But then, he doesn't really need a card. Just about everyone in California north of San Francisco who raises animals for meat knows the tall "ranch butcher" with the bristly mustache and straight-arrow demeanor of a frontier sheriff. Now 43, he began sweeping floors in his family's butcher shop (since sold) in third grade, and started helping his uncle in the pasture not long after. "I was doomed—I knew this was what I was meant to do," he says.
Taylor ties on a black rubber apron that hangs past the tops of his rubber boots and chains a knife holder around his waist. He sticks a hook through the animal's lower jaw and attaches it to a winch mounted on his truck. Twenty minutes of expert scraping, shaving, and eviscerating later, the pig has become pork.
The trailer belongs to Brock Fulmer, of Black Sheep Farm near Potter Valley, California, who's hauled three swine 90 minutes south from his farm and paid $50 per head to have them slaughtered on this dead-end road outside a friend's property. Fulmer could have paid just $20 per head at a usda-inspected facility two hours' drive east of his farm, but that would have required booking a slot at least a month ago. And the customer who bought these pigs for a barbecue didn't think that far ahead.
"Besides, J.T.'s the best there is," says Fulmer. "He's like a ninja."
Marksmanship is important, but so is legal savvy, since a single misstep could land Taylor in hot water. By California law, he can slaughter livestock only for a farmer's personal use or for a farmer's customer who buys the animal alive and whole; in the latter case, he has to do so off farm premises. And under federal law, every carcass Taylor delivers to a butcher shop for cutting—and every piece from it—must be stamped "Not for Sale." Only meat from usda-inspected slaughterhouses can be sold across state lines or on a retail basis (including at farmers markets and restaurants) in the 25 states without their own inspection systems, like California and New York. Taylor has something of a "don't ask, don't tell" policy with his farmers—if Taylor knew his clients were going to sell the meat he shot and officials found out, he could be liable for any food-borne illnesses, for example.
Such rules are partly why federally inspected slaughterhouses kill 98 percent of all cattle and 99 percent of hogs in this country. But as giants like Tyson and Smithfield Foods—which have their own abattoirs—have increasingly dominated the meat industry, the number of usda-approved slaughterhouses nationwide has fallen, from 1,405 in 1992 to just 808 in 2008. (Wyoming doesn't have a single one.) In 2007, just 14 plants killed 18.5 million cattle, more than half the country's total; that's a per-slaughterhouse average of 2.5 head per minute, 24-7. These big operations "are not talking to the little guy, the farmer who says, 'I have 500 head of beef'"—let alone 50 or 5, says Bruce Dunlop, who raises lamb and pork on Lopez Island in Washington state. "They laugh at him." Nor is the little guy excited to take his animals to the plant, considering the very real possibility that they will be mistreated (see the 2007 scandal involving workers at a Chino, California, facility who sprayed water up the noses of lame cattle to get them to walk to slaughter, as required by law, and moved those that couldn't walk by forklift), or that their meat will be caught in the net of a massive E. coli-driven recall.
In desperation, farmers are going into the abattoir business themselves. In 2002, Dunlop, who worked as an engineer before raising sheep, headed a group of farmers who funded, designed, and built a usda-approved mobile slaughterhouse unit that now serves Washington state's four northwest counties. A 34-foot trailer with a cooler and a water system, it dispatches up to 10 cattle a day, four days a week. Dunlop has sold six similar units for about $175,000 each to ranchers around the country. Joel Salatin, whose Polyface farm starred in Michael Pollan's The Omnivore's Dilemma, is thinking bigger: In July, with a partner, he bought a small usda-inspected slaughterhouse in Harrisonburg, Virginia.
But smaller slaughterhouses are struggling mightily to stay in business. The initial investment is steep and the payoff slow if you're not processing thousands of head each day. It takes a minimum of $2 million to build a new plant or even overhaul an old one, says Mike Lorentz, who built a 30-head-a-day facility in 1999 in Cannon Falls, Minnesota. "We lost a million dollars in the first three years. I am like a cancer survivor—exhilarated that I survived, but I wouldn't wish it on anyone."
So into the breach steps One Shot Johnny. Booked solid six days a week, he hasn't taken a sick day in more than seven years, since he impaled his hand skinning a lamb. Small farms in Northern California are raising ever more animals, but all the area's ranch butchers have retired; Taylor recently trained one other man, but he kills only a few days a week for a small number of clients. "Sure, my back hurts a lot," Taylor says. "But what am I going to do, cancel on people? This is their livelihood at stake."
Small scale slaughter and
Small scale slaughter and butchering is a big problem for folks who want to buy locally raised meat and for the farmers growing it. We drive six hours every week back and forth to the butcher to get our pigs to slaughter. Its a lot of time on the road and then there's another two hours of sorting the orders before we start doing our weekly deliveries to local stores, restaurants and individuals.
Here in Vermont Governor Douglas is pushing for the elimination of the Vermont Sate Meat Inspection program. He doesn't seem to understand that there needs to be local processing for local food to get from farm to fork.
-Walter
Sugar Mountain Farm
Pastured Pigs and Sheep
in the mountains of Vermont
http://SugarMtnFarm.com/blog/
Re: Small scale slaughter and...
Walter, Governor Douglas understands only too well that there is a definite need for local processing for local food to get from local farmers to local consumers. that's why he is getting rid of the Vermont Sate Meat Inspection program.
Bob Hatch
AKA: the Frustrated Farmer
In the hills of Walden
Frankly, Trollstein, your
Frankly, Trollstein, your and other vegans' high-horse moral absolutism is tiresome. The consumption of meat will continue to be an important part of the diet of much of the world. The key to improving our lifestyle and our ecology is to farm and consume our meat responsibly and prudently, not pursue quixotic crusades to eliminate it entirely.
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This is exactly how bureaucrats and red tape insure that our food supply is dominated by the large processors and agribusiness. When you make it harder for the farmer to sell direct, he's a lot more likely to shrug and ship the animals off to confinement housing and processing.
Here's the question I keep coming back to, when are the champions of the Foodie Revolution (Pollan, Waters, etc) going to come out against the bureaucratic boondoggle known as NAIS? The mandated animal ID system is going to burden small producers way more than factory farms, and insure that our food supply is more monolithic than ever.
This little piggy says: evolve.
Kinder gentler genetic manipulation through selective breeding
Kinder gentler cruelty to animals, who's lives come and go to satisfy our taste buds.
Kinder gentler heart-disease and cancer + salmenella, e-coli & trigenosis
Kinder gentler pollution of rivers
Kinder gentler smell from the pig farms, which can travel miles.
Kinder gentler mis-utilization of resources
In turn:
Kinder gentler destruction of mankind--on the installment plan.
Go veggie, then, go vegan. This entire discussion is inane. The irony being that the factory farms and agra corporations are doing to we (the people) a kinder-gentler version of what they do to the livestock. Namely, breed us, herd us and slaughter us. Then, these so called 'kinder gentler' agra companies claim to be the bigger victims then the rest of us?
The whole thing is "too redicolous to think about" {Dustin Hoffman as Jack Crabe in 'Little Big Man'}
Respectfully submitted~
Vegans are destroying the planet
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Going vegan is a bad idea. Apparently you missed out on all the destruction of animal life that is caused by the vegetable production industry? They destroy huge amounts of habitat to make the farms, they till the soil causing erosion, they apply chemical pesticides, herbicides, fungicides, then they add fertilizers to sterilized soil. Next come the mechanical weeders and harvesters that kill billions of animals. Get a clue. That salad in front of you cost animals their lives. Animals lost their homes and were ground up in the gears to let you eat snow peas and lettuce. Vegan is not a solution, it's an amoral escape from reality, a hiding your head in the sands.
If you want to make a difference, reduce your consumption, drive less, get out of the urban blight they call cities which are black holes in the ecology, buy from local small farmers and yes, eat meat.
Meat can be pastured on land that is not otherwise useable for growing grains, vegetables or other crops due to the rough terrain. Livestock farming leaves land for a diversity of plant and animal species. The deer and other wildlife coexist with the sheep, pigs, cows, goats and chickens out on pasture.
More over, if you want organic veggies produced with good organic fertilizers then you need livestock. They produce the manure to make the highest possible quality compost. That is that natural cycle of life. Get in touch with Mother Nature.
Go Omnivore - Be part of the solution!
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First, there is nothing planet-friendly about animal agriculture. You are deluding yourself if you think all meat animals spend their time on hillsides eating grasses that grow there naturally, and that their lives and deaths have no impact on the planet.
Second, we all eat vegetables, not only vegans. Including beef animals raised for slaughter, who eat enough corn - which is not even suited to their digestive systems - to keep a whole lot more people alive than will the meat that comes from it.
Third, for heaven's sake nobody needs the damned pesticides! Go organic and eliminate that part of the equation.
Get a clue. Go vegan.
omnivores will survive!
There's a great book out there by Charles Walters called Eco-Farm. To put it simply, the vegans of this world need the carnivores, omnivores but most importantly the decomposers, both plant, animal, fungal, etc that are microscopic and found in healthy soil. With only plants on your diet agenda you will eventually run out of room to grow the vegetables you plan to subsist on. On top of that, there are a lot of places that grow great cattle, sheep, pigs, goats, but are not very vegetable friendly. Why not utilize those areas and produce healthy food calories without monocultured corn as their diet? So, like it or not, animals are useful. On the macro scale, my pigs and sheep keep the fields on the farm in check and convert grasses to protein. They do live a very good life and yes their deaths do have an impact on the planet. A positive one. I am thankful that our family and customers can eat this well. Circle of life, guys. Another good book is Gene Logsdon's All Flesh is Grass. So true.
If you want to make a
If you want to make a difference, reduce your consumption, drive less, get out of the urban blight they call cities which are black holes in the ecology, buy from local small farmers and yes, eat meat.
Thank you very much. This
Thank you very much. This was very informative and interesting to read, as well as the entire post about slaughtering.
Here is the clue: Omnivore
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Here is the clue: Omnivore means one eats vegetables, meat etc. Eat meat. It's good for you.
Well said!
I agree with everything you stated here...absolutely. Folks truly need to educate themselves on sustainable farming- animal and vegetable. The only answer is to practice both carefully, respectfully and consciously.
Cheers.
Cherie
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Leo Tolstoy on small-scale-slaughter
My parents actually risked their lives to flee their comfortable communist lives during the Cold War. The facists claimed that they would protect and feed their people - they were merely not allowed to move and do what they wanted. The same arguments were used by slave owners - explaining why slaves in the US were better off then "wild" blacks back in Africa where there were lions and tribal wars etc.
No.
Don't want to eat mutilated children...
Don't want to eat virgins...
99.9% of all animals (ab)used for taste and entertainment are young virgins.
Here is the real beef. I have visited I don't know how many "free-range" farms with small-slaughter practices (you only lose your life a little?). The sad fact of these gentle farmers is that even free-range animals cannot be raised without "preventive use" of antibiotics. That is why the organic & humane label in the US also allows for antibiotics.
I don't know about you - but if a child or virgin needs to take antibiotics before he or she falls ill or gets infected - there is something wrong with his or her life-style. Some form of unbearable suffering must still be around or this would not be needed.
What did Count Leo Tolstoy have to say about small-scale-slaughter practices. When Tolstoy and Gandhi went vegan - there were only small scale family farms without hormones and mass-transportation in place. Still - these two fellows - together with Einstein - decided to go veg. Why?
Extract from 'The First Step' (1892):
Not long ago I had a talk with a retired soldier, a butcher, and he was surprised at my assertion that it was a pity to kill, and said the usual things about its being ordained. But afterwards he agreed with me: `Especially when they are quiet, tame cattle. They come, poor things! trusting you. It is very pitiful.'
This is dreadful! Not the suffering and death of the animals, but that a man suppresses in himself, unnecessarily, the highest spiritual capacity -- that of sympathy and pity towards living creatures like himself -- and by violating his own feelings becomes cruel. And how deeply seated in the human heart is the injunction not to take life!
Please read on. Tolstoy called the whole phenomena LINK: "Christianity with beefstakes".
Leo Tolstoy on small-scale-slaughter
My parents actually risked their lives to flee their comfortable communist lives during the Cold War. The facists claimed that they would protect and feed their people - they were merely not allowed to move and do what they wanted. The same arguments were used by slave owners - explaining why slaves in the US were better off then "wild" blacks back in Africa where there were lions and tribal wars etc.
No.
Don't want to eat mutilated children...
Don't want to eat virgins...
99.9% of all animals (ab)used for taste and entertainment are young virgins.
Here is the real beef. I have visited I don't know how many "free-range" farms with small-slaughter practices (you only lose your life a little?). The sad fact of these gentle farmers is that even free-range animals cannot be raised without "preventive use" of antibiotics. That is why the organic & humane label in the US also allows for antibiotics.
I don't know about you - but if a child or virgin needs to take antibiotics before he or she falls ill or gets infected - there is something wrong with his or her life-style. Some form of unbearable suffering must still be around or this would not be needed.
What did Count Leo Tolstoy have to say about small-scale-slaughter practices. When Tolstoy and Gandhi went vegan - there were only small scale family farms without hormones and mass-transportation in place. Still - these two fellows - together with Einstein - decided to go veg. Why?
Extract from 'The First Step' (1892):
Not long ago I had a talk with a retired soldier, a butcher, and he was surprised at my assertion that it was a pity to kill, and said the usual things about its being ordained. But afterwards he agreed with me: `Especially when they are quiet, tame cattle. They come, poor things! trusting you. It is very pitiful.'
This is dreadful! Not the suffering and death of the animals, but that a man suppresses in himself, unnecessarily, the highest spiritual capacity -- that of sympathy and pity towards living creatures like himself -- and by violating his own feelings becomes cruel. And how deeply seated in the human heart is the injunction not to take life!
Please read on. Tolstoy called the whole phenomena "Christianity with beefstakes".
Not only meat
Trollstein: the same thing happens with to a lesser extent with vegetables. If I want to process my vegetables (including just combining greens for a salad mix, let alone freezing or canning) I have to have a commercial kitchen. This is obviously a lot cheaper than a butcher shop but still more than my little farm can afford.
The recent peanut butter recall just shows that a vegan lifestyle does not make you immune to the side-effects of factory farming.
Large scale vegetable production is no different that animal production - a big monoculture fed artificial food, processed en-masse, and shipped across the country.
Peanut Butter?
First off, while there was a peanut butter issue involving salmonella, such events are relitively rare and almost always, the contamination originates (incubates) on animal food and is transfered to veg. food, since not every veg. food is cooked in processing. E-coli is exclusively from animals, as is trigenosis, CJD (aka. Madd Cow), bird flu, etc...
Your overall rationalization--that bad things occur everywhere does not move me and hopefully, it will not move others who are contemplating this issue.
Just as people die on beginner's ski slopes, this does not mean that ski-jumping of cliffs is inherently safe. I am sorry that your small family farm can not support your small, family lifestile without cruelty, inefficient use of resources, danger and polution. Perhaps growing ganja (now that the US justice dept. has stopped busting state-sanctioned distribution) would provide your family with the lifestyle it has grown accustomed to.
Respectfully submitted~
The recent peanut butter recall just shows that a vegan ...!
Your statement is not totally true. I buy 99% of my food from Earth Fair and their organic peanut butter was NOT affected with the scare. If you are Vegan and purchase mostly organic produce then you're fairly immune to the big issues of contamination. The money I save from not buying meat and dairy products easily makes up the difference in the extra costs of organic produce. We also buy local in season and grow our own, although in a very small scale.
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Antibiotics on small farms & NAIS
We have a farm in eastern NYS, raising lamb and chickens (for eggs and for meat) and are adding goslings this year.
No routine use of antibiotics here in 20 years of farming.
Sheep and goat farmers have participated in a mandatory ID program for about nine years, to rid the us of the spongiform encephalopathy, scrapie, in the same family of diseases as Mad Cow. This program may serve as a model for NAIS.
A government official has never stepped onto our farm through this entire program. If one of our cull sheep (bearing their mandatory USDA tag) had been tested and had scrapie that would have been a different story.
Then the USDA would have involved us in eradicating the disease from our farm, by destroying the flock, or by removing only those genetically susceptible to scrapie.
And if our animals had been found to harbor scrapie, why wouldn't we want to get rid to be rid of them, and accept USDA's payment for the culled aimals.
USDA seems to be on track to eliminate this disease from the 'national flock', meaning all the sheep and goat farms in the US, by its 2010 goal.
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You are raising lambs? As I said - I personally have enough of killing children and virgins - even though it is via small-scale-slaughter. What did you think of Leo Tolstoy's story?
When it comes to free-range chicken.. How old do they get? On factory farms laying hens have to lay at least 200 eggs per year. In nature they lay 8-12 per year and then hatch. As a result - most factory farmed hens are "finished" phyically and psychologically after 1.5-2 years.
Free-range hens as far as I have seen do not lay more than 150 eggs per years but still 5 times more than in nature. They are usually finished after 3-5 years. In nature - chickens and other fowl birds can grow over 20 years old.
Don't even get me started on chickens raised for meat. The ecological implications are also unfathomable.
Locking animals up and feeding is like removing workers from the market and putting them on eternal welfare. If we continue we will have 80% unemployment ecologically speaking. Some get some taste out of it but ecologically, economically and ethically we all lose with livestock farming.
Regarding the issue of antibiotics. I have never met a free-range farmers who claimed to use routine antibiotics. It was at night - when sneaking into the barn that I got my "impressions" from. I am not implying that you are not quite saying the truth. I am just sharing my experiences with free-range farms. Maybe yours is an exception. Send me your address I can test you better than the USDA ever could ;-)
PS: Still interested to hear your thoughts on Tolstoy's feelings. No - actually I am interested to hear about your feelings regarding Tolstoy's thoughts.
I have no idea what you mean
I have no idea what you mean “slaves”?
Regarding the challenge and counter challenge. Going off animal foods for 2 weeks is well within everyone’s EASY ability to accomplish. Growing one’s own food for a year is a new career. Thus, the two concepts are highly distinguishable.
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Hugo you keep asking what people think of Tolstoy. What I think is you are rabid and should see immediate medical attention. Relax. You dont have to force your creed of not eating meat on everyone. If you dont like meat why the flicker are you reading this article? Because you are rabid and on a crusade to interfer with other people's lives. This is what you claim your parents fled. More likely your making up stories to justify yourself.
Eating meat is good. Meat is good. You will be dinner to in your time. It is the natural order of things.
Natural order
" . . . on a crusade to interfer with other people's lives."
I do not beleive anyone here has suggested a legal prohibition to animal consumption. People have posted their feelings freely. Nor has anyone forced you to read them. But why do you endevor to interfer with people's rights to free speech? A- Because the truth is an effront to you. You want to eat flesh, have at it. Even raw flesh. If you can put it in your mouth, we veggies can contemplate it in safety.
Meat was good when humans had a problem obtaining calories. The game was then untained by chamicals and FYI: rarely did humans eat carnivorious game. Do you eat dog meat? Alligator? Rats? Why not?
This ancient addiction to animal protien and fat was then (over the centuries) hard-wired into the human brain. We can switch it off but we have to do so pro-actively. It does not switch off by itself.
Today, meat may still taste good but is an inferior form of food for numerous reasons already submitted.
I further assert that vegetarianism is among the most nobel of lifestyles, precisely because we are (unfairly) seen as an effront to "other people's lives". Just as, in the 1960's non-smokers were often treated as 'enemies of the state', today's flesh eaters often treat the veggies as the problem, not the solution (that they are in reality). During the black plague in Europe, the Jews were often blamed as the cause when in fact, their kosher (and other domestic) habits provided them with a measure of immunity.
The "natural order" of things is to evolve. Some do, some don't.
Respectfully submitted~
Trollstein: I find it
Trollstein: I find it telling that when a meat-eating poster rebuts the argument of a vegetarian poster you accuse him/her of interfering with the free speech rights of the vegetarian poster. Please. This speaks volumes to the weakness of your argument. You may find veganism to be a morally superior lifestyle and that's fine; but that's as far as you can reasonably take it. To then assert that meat is an "inferior" food is foolish. Meat (in reasonable quantities, the issue at hand for most nutritionists) provides protein, amino acids, fats and fatty acids, and trace minerals that are all essential to a well-balanced diet.
In fact, many anthropologists now believe that, far from being a vice, our evolutionary ancestors' consumption of meat was essential to our development into modern humans. As the brain is made up primarily of fat and protein, the huge influx of those nutrients that an omnivorous lifestyle provided dramatically accelerated our brain's evolution.
Further, while the factory farming of both plants and animals has disastrous ecological consequences, livestock can, as previous posters have noted, play an essential role in the development of more "green" farming practices. As in most things, moderation is the key to success. A balanced diet, and a balanced agriculture, contains both animal and plant-derived food.
Frankly, Trollstein, your and other vegans' high-horse moral absolutism is tiresome. The consumption of meat will continue to be an important part of the diet of much of the world. The key to improving our lifestyle and our ecology is to farm and consume our meat responsibly and prudently, not pursue quixotic crusades to eliminate it entirely.
Dangerous Diets
There was an article a few years ago about some vegan parents that killed their child by forcing veganism on it. Pretty horrific when dogma becomes so hard that it gets people to kill their own children.
As to dangerous food recalls. Think of tomatoes (falsely blamed), spinache, peanut butter, peppers (real culprit on tomatoe recall), salad lettuce, etc. The problem is the big processors, mass production, mass distribution.
Another problem vegans and vegetarians run into is they depopulate their bodies of the good flora and fauna in their guts. Then when they go to eat meat and fats, either accidentally or on purpose, it makes them more suseptible to sickening because their bodies can no longer handle good foods.
Go Omnivore!
Dangerous diets??
It makes sense to look up the actual account of the parents who supposedly killed their child by feeding a vegan diet. Here's a comment from the prosecutor in that case:
“No matter how many times they want to say, ‘We’re vegans, we’re vegetarians,’ that’s not the issue in this case,” said prosecutor Chuck Boring. “The child died because he was not fed. Period.” - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18574603/
It wasn't about the vegan diet. It was the parents starving their child.
Statistically the story is clear: vegans are healthier than omnivores. Naturally there are some vegans who are less healthy than some omnivores but the overall statistics are simply overwhelming. The whole question of whether vegan diets can be healthy has been answered again and again.
All people need to pay attention to what they are eating. All parents need to keep their children from starving.
which healthy vegans?
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As a student on a liberal college campus, I know many vegans and not one of them is healthy. They often have bad skin, are skinny to the bone, and often suffer from cravings. These are all signals that the body chemistry is completely whacked. A vegan diet does not provide the healthy animal fat and complete protein that is necessary for a healthy body.
A convincing argument against veganism and vegetarianism is that there are very few examples of such societies in history. Today, we have the luxury of picking and choosing what we eat, today. Before this abundance, the most efficiently fed people would survive when in competition for food. If, as you argue, veganism were the most efficient style of diet, we should not expect any examples of omnivorous societies in history because meat would not be worth amount of energy required. But it WAS worth the energy put into hunting, butchering and cooking that is found in nearly all traditional cultures. The are no examples of vegan cultures and the only example of vegetarian culture is found in Southern Indian, where life expectancy is lower that the their omnivorous neighbors to the north.
Refer to "Nourishing Traditions" by Sally Fallon for more concrete and scientific evidence for an omnivorous diet. Please, for your own sake, open your mind and take a look at this book and its evidence.
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" . . . you accuse him/her
" . . . you accuse him/her of interfering with the free speech rights of the vegetarian poster."
I was merely using the same argument submitted by the flesh-monger when he/she said: " . . . on a crusade to interfere with other people's lives." What I said was the opposite side of that same coin. My statement was 1/2 rhetorical, somewhat sarcastically mocking the earlier statement. Telling and "speaks volumes to the weakness of your argument" that you are critical of the sarcastic parody--while defending the underlying (original) statement, which was (unlike my retort) said in full seriousness.
Older science claimed that animal protein was required en-masse and could not be substituted, period. Newer science states that all amino acids are available elsewhere. The jury is still out on which ones are actually necessary. So your statement is factually false. Trace minerals (for example) are found in FAR larger qtys in sea vegetation. They are nearly depleted from the normal food chain otherwise--including most land animals.
Animal fats are a core factor in congestive heart failure. It is a contributing factor in cancer.
Plus, a good amount of the most negative substances such as PCBs and Mercury can be directly traced to animal foods.\
"As the brain is made up primarily of fat and protein, the huge influx of those nutrients that an omnivorous lifestyle provided dramatically accelerated our brain's evolution."
What else would a high-profile academic researcher say, who takes his lunch hour at Sizzler?
Both whales and Elephants have much larger brains then humans. Elephant's brains are like 4 times larger. They eat grass.
The fastest animals also eat grass. Pound-for-pound, non-human primates are many times stronger then humans, and survive on vegetation.
I will cut to the chase because you can post dated bumper-stickers all day. Anyone who has not gone off animals for 2-weeks has no intellectual authority to debate this point.
Surely, even you will concede that two weeks on a vegan diet can't possibly harm anyone. Therefore, come back in two weeks and tell me that you had not been toxically-addicted.
this means, no meat, no fish, no dairy, no eggs for 14 days and nights. If you won't do it, you are a idealog. If you can't do it, you are weak and in denial of same. Come on tough guy, show us something meaningful--(which is not adhesively affixed to the back of your pick-up).
Respectfully submitted~
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Dangerous minds
" . . vegan parents that killed their child by forcing veganism on it . . "
(This " " " " has got to be from the 'peanut butter' poster)
Our child is a vegan from birth (not counting the breast-milk) and she is the healthiest child in town at 6-1/2. She is taller, stronger, and has almost no illness. She is also extremely smart and uses words that many adults don't know.
So how does a child die from this diet? Please explain.
PS> of the few illnesses she had, more then half were directly after an innoculation.
Respectfully submitted~
USDA woes
I've visited two commercial slaughterhouses. Temple Grandin's work notwithstanding, these places are nightmares for a variety of reasons. The USDA is understaffed and underfunded, and cannot possibly do an adequate job of regulating this industry. For those of us who prefer home-grown or locally-grown meat which comes from animals raised in a healthy, kind environment by respectful caretakers (like me), the roving ranch butcher is a welcome necessity. We never sell our animals at auction; they remain pastured and coddled until the bullet hits their brainstem. The man who helps us with this is calm and extraordinarily accurate, and every animal he's handled for us has avoided the inevitable extreme anxieties of chuting, transport, rough handling by strangers, captive-bolt mishaps, and the many other horrors of the large-scale slaughter process. If you are a meat-eater and haven't tried hand-raised, free-range beef from a caring family farm, you don't know what you're missing. There's no comparison -- and the karma is a lot better for you, too.
MY HERO
Trollstein: you are my new hero. bless you. i live every day in constant harassment from family and friends for my non-violent life style of vegetarianism. some of the harassment is lighthearted, but most is a defense mechanism. somehow by not eating meat, i am "judging" others which leads to hostile defense from those who would justify their own lifestyles. however, if my vegetarian lifestyle offends, than perhaps others need to think deeply about WHY it offends.
there is NO SUCH THING as humane raising of livestock for food. when the end result is slaughter and mutilation, how can that be humane? we are not killing these animals for their own good, to end their suffering - so how can it be called "humane"? these are living, breathing, individuated, sentient beings. there life is their own.
Ind E Thinker
You are welcome to join the Troll kingdom. Of course, I remain the absolute ruler for life. But as that does not seem to be a bother to you . . .
Respectfully submitted~
This is exactly why my
This is exactly why my family is Vegan! Oh, and my 13 month old (vegan) daughter is perfect according to her pediatrician. She is in the 75% of height and exactly 50% in body weight for her age. So, for those who think that veganism is unhealthy and possibly deadly, you're terribly mistaken. I just cannot feed my child beef, pork or chicken products laced with growth hormones and massive amounts of antibiotics.
human anatomy shows we're frugivorous
The frugivores (gorillas, chimpanzees and other primates) have intestinal tracts twelve times the length of the body, clawless hands and alkaline urine and saliva. Their diet is mostly vegetarian, occasionally supplemented with carrion, insects, etc.
Flesh-eating animals lap water with their tongue, whereas vegetarian animals imbibe liquids by a suction process. Humans are classified as primates and are thus frugivores possessing a set of completely herbivorous teeth. Proponents of the theory that humans should be classified as omnivores note that human beings do, in fact, possess a modified form of canine teeth. However, these so-called "canine teeth" are much more prominent in animals that traditionally never eat flesh, such as apes, camels, and the male musk deer.
It must also be noted that the shape, length and hardness of these so-called "canine teeth" can hardly be compared to those of true carnivorous animals. A principle factor in determining the hardness of teeth is the phosphate of magnesia content. Human teeth usually contain 1.5 percent phosphate of magnesia, whereas the teeth of carnivores are composed of nearly 5 percent phosphate of magnesia. It is for this reason they are able to break through the bones of their prey, and reach the nutritious marrow.
Zoologist Desmond Morris makes a case for vegetarianism in his 1967 book, The Naked Ape: "It could be argued that, since our primate ancestors had to make do without a major meat component in their diets we should be able to do the same. We were driven to become flesh eaters only by environmental circumstances, and now that we have the environment under control, with elaborately cultivated crops at our disposal, we might be expected to return to our ancient feeding patterns."
In The Human Story, edited by Marie-Louise Makris (1985), we read: "...recent studies of their teeth reveal that the Australopithecines did not eat meat as a regular part of their diet, and were mainly peaceful vegetarians, rather like chimps or gorillas. The popular image of the murderous ape is now as extinct as the Australopithecines themselves."
Dr. Gordon Latto notes that carnivorous and omnivorous animals can only move their jaws up and down, and that omnivores "have a blunt tooth, a sharp tooth, a blunt tooth, a sharp tooth--showing that they were destined to deal both with flesh foods from the animal kingdom and foods from the vegetable kingdom...
"Carnivorous mammals and omnivorous mammals cannot perspire except at the extremity of the limbs and the tip of the nose; man perspires all over the body. Finally, our instincts; the carnivorous mammal (which first of all has claws and canine teeth) is capable of tearing flesh asunder, whereas man only partakes of flesh foods after they have been camouflaged by cooking and by condiments.
"Man instinctively is not carnivorous," explains Dr. Latto. "...he takes the flesh food after somebody else has killed it, and after it has been cooked and camouflaged with certain condiments. Whereas to pick an apple off a tree or eat some grain or a carrot is a natural thing to do; people enjoy doing it; they don't feel disturbed by it. But to see these animals being slaughtered does affect people; it offends them. Even the toughest of people are affected by the sights in the slaughterhouse.
"I remember taking some medical students into a slaughterhouse. They were about as hardened people as you could meet. After seeing the animals slaughtered that day in the slaughterhouse, not one of them could eat the meat that evening."
Author R.H. Weldon writes in No Animal Food:
"The gorge of a cat, for instance, will rise at the smell of a mouse or a piece of raw flesh, but not at the aroma of fruit. If a man can take delight in pouncing upon a bird, tear its still living body apart with his teeth, sucking the warm blood, one might infer that Nature had provided him with a carnivorous instinct, but the very thought of doing such a thing makes him shudder. On the other hand, a bunch of luscious grapes makes his mouth water, and even in the absence of hunger, he will eat fruit to gratify taste."
As far back as 1961, the Journal of the American Medical Association reported that: "A vegetarian diet can prevent 97% of our coronary occlusions." More recently, William S. Collens and Gerald B. Dobkens concluded: "Examination of the dental structure of modern man reveals that he possesses all the features of a strictly herbivorous animal. While designed to subsist on vegetarian foods, he has perverted his dietary habits to accept food of the carnivore. It is postulated that man cannot handle carnivorous foods like the carnivore. Herein may lie the basis for the high incidence of arteriosclerotic disease."
Keith Akers in A Vegetarian Sourcebook (1983), responds to the argument that killing animals for food is natural:
"This is quite an admirable argument. It explains practically everything; why we do not eat each other, except under conditions of unusual stress; why we may kill certain other animals (they are, in the order of nature, food for us); even why we should be kind to pets and try to help miscellaneous wildlife (they are not naturally our food). There are some problems with the idea that an order of nature determines which species are food for us, but an examination of human history indicates the broad outlines of just such an order, though inhibitions against eating certain species may vary from culture to culture.
"The main problem with this argument is that it does not justify the practice of meat-eating or animal husbandry as we know it today; it justifies hunting. The distinction between hunting and animal husbandry probably seems rather fine to the man in the street, or even to your typical rule-utilitarian moral philosopher. The distinction, however, is obvious to an ecologist. If one defends killing on the grounds that it occurs in nature, then one is defending the practice as it occurs in nature.
"When one species of animal preys on another in nature, it only preys on a very small proportion of the total species population. Obviously, the predator species relies on its prey for its continued survival. Therefore, to wipe the prey species out through overhunting would be fatal. In practice, members of such predator species rely on such strategies as territoriality to restrict overhunting and to insure the continued existence of its food supply.
"Moreover, only the weakest members of the prey species are the predator's victims: the feeble, the sick, the lame, or the young accidentally separated from the fold. The life of the typical zebra is usually placid, even in lion country; this kind of violence is the exception in nature, not the rule.
"As it exists in the wild, hunting is the preying upon isolated members of an animal herd. Animal husbandry is the nearly complete annihilation of an animal herd. In nature, this kind of slaughter does not exist. The philosopher is free to argue that there is no moral difference between hunting and slaughter, but he cannot invoke nature as a defense of this idea.
"Why are hunters, not butchers, most frequently taken to task by the larger community for their killing of animals? Hunters usually react to such criticism by replying that if hunting is wrong, then meat-hunting must be wrong as well. The hunter is certainly right on one point--the larger community is hypocritical to object to hunting when it consumes the flesh of domesticated animals. If any form of meat-eating is justified, it would be meat from a hunted animal."
In his 1975 book, Animal Liberation, Australian philosopher Peter Singer writes:
"Killing an animal is in itself a troubling act. It has been said that if we had to kill our own meat we would all be vegetarians. There may be exceptions to that general rule, but it is true that most people prefer not to inquire into the killing of the animals they eat.
"Very few people ever visit a slaughterhouse; and films of slaughterhouse operations are rarely shown on television...Yet those who, by their purchases, require animals to be killed have no right to be shielded from this or any other aspect of the production of the meat they buy.
"If it is distasteful for humans to think about, what can it be like for the animals to experience it?"
Peter Singer concludes in Animal Liberation that "by ceasing to rear and kill animals for food, we can make extra food available for humans that, properly distributed, it would eliminate starvation and malnutrition from this planet. Animal Liberation is Human Liberation, too."
Dr. Milton Mills' "The Comparative Anatomy of Eating,"
www.vegsource.com/veg_faq/comparative.htm
and the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine,
www.pcrm.org ,
argue persuasively that the optimal diet for humanity is a vegan diet. However, even if humans really are omnivores and not frugivores, my friend Mareechi Duvvuuri (another Hindu-American!) who once studied sports medicine, pointed out that the diet of natural omnivores is mostly (80 percent) plant food.
Better, But Is This The Best Way to Do It?
Killing isn't ever going to be a pleasant task, particularly for those to be slaughtered. To think otherwise is a rather dangerous path on which to tread. Still, I would think that the most humane manner of slaughter, which seems to be the point here, would be to keep the pending death of the creature as much of a surprise to it as possible, and not let that quick end happen anywhere near other animals. Even if you didn't know what was to happen, you've been trucked in to a strange location; the entire adventure being a serious break with routine (which, from an environmental standpoint would seem to beg the question, shouldn't the butcher come to the rancher, instead of the rancher taking the animals to slaughter--on these small scale levels?), wouldn't even the dumbest of large animals have some sense of dread? Of course, where do you take this? Classical music? Heated barns? A series of last meals served with the smells such animals are thought to prefer piped in? And then, what, lead them off with Happy Talk until you get to the point where ZAP! They're dead? How far does one have to go to kill an animal humanely? We used to cut off people's heads, thinking the act of severance killed the individual, until a French doctor did a few tests and realized that while the body might be dead, the head was still somewhat conscious and would respond to a shout. Was it "alive" though?
If you're looking for excuses to avoid meat, there aren't any shortage of them. But taking oneself out of the market does little to encourage the Market to treat animals as humanely as possible, and the idea that the US, short of a Hindu take-over, will become a vegetarian nation is absurd. Well informed individuals will eat less meat, realizing that it's not all that good for them, or the planet. There's no reason that the meat remaining shouldn't be the best quality, raised in the most sustainable and humane fashion, and slaughtered in the most dignified, humane manner possible. Without getting silly about it.
Somehow, going into a barn and calling out "Here piggy" and shooting the thing in front of, or near other animals up for slaughter is the best way to achieve the above. Better, but still not good enough.
excerpts from Please Don't Eat the Animals
The following quotes, facts, figures, and statistics are excerpted from Please Don't Eat the Animals (2007) by Jennifer Horsman and Jaime Flowers:
"A reduction in beef and other meat consumption is the most potent single act you can take to halt the destruction of our environment and preserve our natural resources. Our choices do matter: What's healthiest for each of us personally is also healthiest for the life support system of our precious, but wounded planet."
---John Robbins, author, Diet for a New America, and President, EarthSave Foundation
One study puts animal waste in the United States to between 2.4 trillion to 3.9 trillion pounds per year. The United states produces 15,000 pounds of manure per person. This is 130 times the amount of waste produced by the entire human population of the United States.
A 1,000-cow dairy can produce approximately 120,000 pounds of waste per day. This is the functional equivalent of the amount of sanitary waste produced by a city of 20,000 people.
A 20,000-chicken factory produces about 2.4 million pounds of manure a year. Poultry factories are one of the fastest growing industries throughout Asia.
One pig excretes nearly three gallons of waste per day, or 2.5 times the average human's daily total. One hog farm with 50,000 pigs in France produces more waste than the entire city of Los Angeles, and some pig farms are much larger.
Factory farm pollution is the primary source of damage to coastal waters in North and South America, Europe, and Asia. Scientists report that over sixty percent of the coastal waters in the United States are moderately to severely degraded from factory farm nutrient pollution. This pollution creates oxygen-depleted dead zones, which are huge areas of ocean devoid of aquatic life.
Meat production causes deforestation, which then contributes to global warming. Trees convert carbon dioxide into oxygen, and the destruction of forests around the globe to make room for grazing cattle furthers the greenhouse effect. The Food and Agricultural Organization of the United Nations reports that the annual rate of tropical deforestation has increased from 9 million hectares in 1980 to 16.8 million hectares in 1990, and unfortunately, this destruction has accelerated since then. By 1994, a staggering 200 million hectares of rainforest had been destroyed in South America just for cattle.
"The impact of countless hooves and mouths over the years has done more to alter the type of vegetation and land forms of the West than all the water projects, strip mines, power plants, freeways, and sub-division developments combined."
---Philip Fradkin, in Audubon, National Audubon Society, New York
Agricultural meat production generates air pollution. As manure decomposes, it releases over 400 volatile organic compounds, many of which are extremely harmful to human health. Nitrogen, a major by-product of animal wastes, changes to ammonia as it escapes into the air, and this is a major source of acid rain. Worldwide, livestock produce over 30 million tons of ammonia. Hydrogen sulfide, another chemical released from animal waste, can cause irreversible neurological damage, even at low levels.
The World Conservation Union lists over 1,000 different fish species that are threatened or endangered. According to the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) estimate, over 60 percent of the world's fish species are either fully exploited or depleted. Commercial fish populations of cod, hake, haddock, and flounder have fallen by as much as 95 percent in the north Atlantic.
The United States and Europe lose several billion tons of topsoil each year from cropland and grazing land, and 84 percent of this erosion is caused by livestock agriculture. While this soil is theoretically a renewable resource, we are losing soil at a much faster rate than we are able to replace it. It takes 100 to 500 years to produce one inch of topsoil, but due to livestock grazing and feeding, farming areas can lose up to six inches of topsoil a year.
Livestock production affects a startling 70 to 85 percent of the land area of the United States, United Kingdom, and the European Union. That includes the public and private rangeland used for grazing, as well as the land used to produce the crops that feed the animals. By comparison, urbanization only affects 3 percent of the United States land area, slightly larger for the European Union and the United Kingdom. Meat production consumes the world's land resources.
Half of all fresh water worldwide is used for thirsty livestock. Producing eight ounces of beef requires an unimaginable 25,000 liters of water, or the water necessary for one pound of steak equals the water consumption of the average household for a year.
The United States government spends $10 million each year to kill an estimated 100,000 wild animals, including coyotes, foxes, bobcats, badgers, bears, and mountain lions just to placate ranchers who don't want these animals killing their livestock. The cost far outweighs the damage to livestock that these predators cause.
The Worldwatch Institute estimates one pound of steak from a steer raised in a feedlot costs: five pounds of grain, a whopping 2,500 gallons of water, the energy equivalent of a gallon of gasoline, and about 34 pounds of topsoil.
33 percent of our nation's raw materials and fossil fuels go into livestock destined for slaughter. In a vegan economy, only 2 percent of our resources will go to the production of food.
"It seems disingenuous for the intellectual elite of the first world to dwell on the subject of too many babies being born in the second- and third-world nations while virtually ignoring the overpopulation of cattle and the realities of a food chain that robs the poor of sustenance to feed the rich a steady diet of grain-fed meat."
---Jeremy Rifkin, author, Beyond Beef: The Rise and Fall of the Cattle Culture, and president of the Greenhouse Crisis Foundation
Lester Brown of the Overseas Development Council calculates that if Americans reduced their meat consumption by only 10 percent per year, it would free at least 12 million tons of grain for human consumption--or enough to feed 60 million people.
No more rationalisation
To be honest, I feel more in common with a right wing vegetarian than a left wing flesh eater/parasite these days. In terms of depravity, suffering and needless cruelty, nothing in the modern age is more immoral(it's probably on par with paedophilia). Humans are not taking out prey like lions do - humans farm. Farming sentient animals for their flesh is such a degenerate, parasitic act....it makes a mockery of every other 'progressive' value one holds. Not eating the flesh of farmed animals is where having a 'moral compass' begins. It is a fundamental value.
I'm really sorry if this is sounding so harsh, I have just seen so much evil that I can't look the other way or 'rationalise' anymore. I can no longer call myself a 'humanist' and think it's good any more than I can call myself a 'racist' and think it's good.
Murder is murder
Murder is murder. I don't care if a guy comes out and shoots animals or if they are transported to a slaughterhouse. Either way it's wrong.
Where's one's sense of decency, of compassion, of love?
No wonder our society is so violent.
Go veg and stop the killing! For more info, visit ChooseVeg.com.
more excerpts from Please Don't Eat the Animals
The following quotes, facts, figures, and statistics are excerpted from Please Don't Eat the Animals (2007) by Jennifer Horsman and Jaime Flowers:
"Nothing will benefit human health and increase chances for survival of life on earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet."
---Albert Einstein
"Each year, the meat industrial complex abuses and butchers nearly 9 billion cows, pigs, sheep, turkeys, chickens, and other innocent, feeling animals just for the enjoyment of consumers. Each year, nearly 1.5 million of these consumers are crippled and killed prematurely by heart failure, cancer, stroke, and other chronic diseases that have been linked conclusively with the consumption of these animals. Each year, millions of other animals are abused and sacrificed in a vain search for a 'magic pill' that would vanquish these largely self-inflicted diseases."
---Alex Hershaft, PhD, president, Farm Animal Reform Movement
When analyzing 8,300 deaths in the United States, United Kingdom, and Germany among 76,000 men and women in five different, large studies, researchers concluded that vegetarians have a 24 percent reduction in death from heart disease.
Similarly, in the famous Oxford Vegetarian Study, where 6,000 vegetarians were compared with 5,000 meat-eaters over nearly two decades, scientists found that the rate of death from heart disease was 28 percent lower in vegetarians than in meat-eaters.
One study analyzed eighty scientific studies in leading medical journals. The analysis found that vegetarians had lower blood pressure, and were less likely to suffer from stroke, heart attack, and kidney failure.
A large German study of nearly 2,000 vegetarians found that deaths from heart disease were reduced by over one-third, and that heart disease itself was far less than that of the general population.
Another large study examined the coronary artery disease risk of young adults ages 18 to 30 and vegetarians were found to have much higher levels of cardiovascular fitness and a greatly reduced risk of heart disease.
"The process of gradual blocking of the coronary arteries begins not in adulthood but in childhood...and the main cause of this arteriosclerosis is the steadily increasing amount of fat in the American diet, particularly saturated animal fats such as those found in meat, chicken, milk and cheeses. If there was another disease that caused half a million deaths a year, you can be sure that the public would be acutely aware of the danger, and that the cure or prevention would be universally practiced."
---Dr. Benjamin Spock, author, child expert
"I don't understand why asking people to eat a well-balanced vegetarian diet is considered drastic, while it is medically conservative to cut people open and put them on powerful cholesterol-lowering drugs for the rest of their lives."
---Dr. Dean Ornish, author, Reversing Heart Disease
Stroke is the third leading cause of death behind heart disease and cancer. Vegetarians have a 20 to 30 percent reduced risk of having a stroke. Stroke, like heart disease, is associated with diets high in saturated fats, and the vegetarian diet is naturally low in these fats.
The Oxford Vegetarian Study found cancer mortality to be 39 percent lower among vegetarians when compared with meat-eaters. The European Prospective Investigation of Cancer found vegetarians suffer 40 percent fewer cancers than the general population.
Studies have shown that decreasing a woman's animal fat intake can reduce the chances that she will die from breast cancer. A large-scale, long-term study in the Netherlands found a powerful connection between the amount of animal fat consumed and the rate of prostate cancer. A review of a dozen studies found dietary fat strongly correlated with prostate cancer.
Ovarian, uterine, and endometrial cancers have all been shown to be strongly correlated to the amount of animal fat in one's diet, and vegetarian women have significantly lower rates of these cancers.
"The beef industry has contributed to more American deaths than all the wars of this century, all the natural disasters, and all automobile accidents combined."
---Dr. Neal Barnard, Executive Director, Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine
"Vegetarians have the best diet. They have the lowest rate of coronary disease of any group in the country. They have a fraction of our heart attack rate and they have only 40 percent of our cancer rate."
---William Castelli, MD, Director, Framingham Heart Study
"Human beings are not natural carnivores. When we kill animals to eat them, they end up killing us because their flesh, which contains cholesterol and saturated fat, was never intended for human beings, who are natural herbivores."
---Dr. William Roberts, editor-in-chief, American Journal of Cardiology
And we're attacking vegans WHY?!?
Yes, I choose to live a vegan lifestyle, but I am by NO means a veganazi, pontificating from a soapbox and trying to win converts. Unless someone asks about my choices, which I believe to be compassionate and well thought out, I keep my opinions to myself (except in print, as I have the opportunity to write a monthly animal rights column for a Florida publication and send lots of letters to lots of editors).
My belief is that the philosophy at the core of veganism is "live and let live", so why then do so many people find it necessary to publicly attack these choices? To make a statement like "vegans are destroying the planet" and follow it with sarcasm and self-righteous anger suggests to me that someone's conscience was a bit affected by these ideas.
I'm not vegan because I want to be "better than"; I'm vegan because, wherever possible, I do not wish to support a system of animal slavery, cruelty, suffering and death.
This country outlawed slavery 144 years ago. Isn't it time that our actions supported our words?
I long for the day when we no longer have to create humane societies and instead simply choose to live as one.
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Y'all are making me crave steak tartare. And it ain't gonna be organic neither.
adopt plant based diet for humans, nonhumans & climate change
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Methane (CH4) from ruminants has at least 20 times the heat-trapping effect of an equivalent amount of carbon dioxide (CO2).
If we do not reduce our meat consumption, it will cost us US$ 20 trillion by the year 2050. That's the conclusion of a study by Elke Stehfest and colleagues of the Netherlands Environmental Assessment Agency
"Researchers at the National Institute of Livestock and Grassland Science in Japan have carried out a life-cycle analysis of beef production which shows that 'a kilogram of beef leads to the emission of greenhouse gases with a warming potential equivalent of 36.4 kilograms of CO2' (New Scientist, 21.7.07). To help you get your head around this, that's equivalent to the amount of CO2 emitted by the average car over a distance of 250 kilometres."
"Researchers at the University of Chicago have calculated the relative carbon intensity of a standard vegan diet in comparison to a US-style carnivorous diet, all the way through from production to processing to distribution to cooking and consumption. An average burger man (that is, not the outsize variety) emits the equivalent of 1.5 tonnes more CO2 every year than the standard vegan. By comparison, were you to trade in your conventional gas-guzzler for a state of the art Prius hybrid, your CO2 savings would amount to little more than one tonne per year."
Check out these vids:
Watch the vid: "Vegan. For Humans. For Non-Humans. For the Planet."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhMpXxzxG3Q
Link between meat eating and climate change
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_1cE0x5z7c
Work a shift in the "Condemned Guts" room
Food choices are ingrained into us by the culture in which we grow up. Having stated the obvious, let me relate a story that was told to me.
When I first moved to Iowa, there was an engineer at my employer's firm who had worked his way through college in one of Iowa's slaughter factories. He ACTUALLY told us this while we were eating pizza during a "Learn over lunch" session. I will spare you the details, but his job involved wading into piles of animal entrails and sorting through them. The would periodically fall down a chute from the floor above by the ton. The site of his workstation... the "Condemned Guts Room".
Most of us are insulated from the processing of meat products, although many sportsmen dress their kill and most sport fishermen do, at least in the part of the world where I grew up. Personally, I think that the insulation from it is a bad thing. I think that if you eat meat, you should be aware that you are eating the remains of a sentient being who gave its life unwillingly to end up on your plate. If you can justify the equation, in my mind it should include some respect for that sacrifice. This could be expressed by endeavoring to never waste meat. It's not the same thing as throwing out a box of stale corn flakes.
This film is pretty tame compared to film I've seen of factory slaughter operations. If you are going to be an omnivore, this is the best way to do it, IMO. At least you know what the animals ate and how they were slaughtered.
I will leave the discussion of vegan/omnivore to those who are more passionate about it. I was veggie for 7 years and those were probably the healthiest years of my life. I could go back to it easily, and in fact sometimes don't eat any flesh for days. However, my wife still likes to eat meat upon occasion so that's what we have. I have been known to say "Everyone should eat whatever they like as long as it's not ME."
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If I would have known I was going to live this long, I would have taken better care of myself.
~~~ George Burns
Thank you for posting this!
Thank you for posting this!
The guy's a pro.. surely the
The guy's a pro.. surely the pig nor the meat suffered. Those who eat too much? The jury is still out... smaller portions, more veggies.. mmmm ham steak and a couple farm fresh eggs. Go John.. a 'dieing art'.































