Allie Brosh, the not-a-cartoon version.
Mother Jones: Had you ever blogged before starting Hyperbole and a Half?
Allie Brosh: I had some silly thing on MySpace ages ago, but that's about the extent of it. I was procrastinating on studying for a physics final and I wondered if I could write something that people would like. I've always enjoyed writing things, just as a means of entertaining myself. I have notebooks filled with stuff that I would write before, but I never showed it to anybody.
MJ: What was it like to switch from blogging to book writing?
AB: I spent long hours shut in my room with nothing but my own thoughts and thinking about trying to be funny, and you go a little bit insane. It's sort of like The Shining. You don't think of The Shining as a movie that you'd identify with, but I feel like I really identify with it now. To tell you the truth, I enjoyed the going crazy part. I don't know if this is Stockholm Syndrome, but I have pleasant, nostalgic memories of those like 18 hours days where I'm just drawing silly pictures and going absolutely insane.
MJ: How long does it take you to write a post?
"I would draw people, but I didn't understand how many appendages they were supposed to have."
AB: It takes forever sometimes. I have a really specific image in my head of what I want the post to read like and what I want it to feel like. It's sort of like trying to look at something out of your peripheral vision. I can sense the general shapes of what this needs to be and I know exactly when it's wrong, but not when it's right. Sometimes I've delayed posts for years because of this, because I haven't found quite the right tone—or maybe I don't even have the skill set yet to do it in the proper way.
MJ: Did you keep a diary or a journal when you were younger?
AB: When I was eight, I decided that I wanted to write a book. And this is something I was very heavily committed to at the time. I had every intention of getting it published, of course. I filled several spiral bound notebooks. It was just a story about a guy fighting different things. It was a total monstrosity, just rambling characters would come and go for no reason. I started drawing long before that, probably ever since I could pick up a pen and figure out what to do with it. My mom would use drawing as a babysitting tool; she would buy me rolls of butcher paper and just give me pens and tell me to go nuts. It was a good outlet for my energy. I was a problematic child.
MJ: From your posts, it seems like you grew up in a really isolated place.
AB: My family and I moved to Sandpoint, Idaho, when I was eight. It just allowed me to be a little bit weirder. If I wanted to entertain myself, I couldn't just walk over to my neighbor's house or to my friend's house, so it led to me being more resourceful with my entertainment. I think that I was sort of a wild animal, forest child. I would get up at like six o'clock in the morning and just go like walk around in the forest and try to find deer.
MJ: What were your early drawings like?
AB: If things in the world actually looked like they did when I drew them, we would live in a terrifying place. I would draw people, but I didn't understand how many appendages they were supposed to have, and I didn't ever draw bodies, I would just sort of draw a circle and then place what were supposed to be facial features. I don't know what was happening in my brain; I would see a person and something would flip it around in my brain and be like, "Hey, this is what they're supposed to look like." And I remember at the time thinking like, "Oh! This is really good."
"I worry about getting people's hopes up—writing a silly post and people being like, 'Oh she's back, she's better.'"
MJ: Did you stay interested in art as you got older?
AB: Oh yeah, I used to enter art competitions when I was in like seventh and eighth grade.
MJ: What would you draw?
AB: Wolves mostly. I drew a lot of wolves and dogs.
MJ: Your site has become hugely popular. When did that start, and did you see it coming?
AB: I was definitely surprised the first day that someone submitted one of my posts to Reddit. I looked at my little stat counter and it was like 100 times more traffic than I'd ever had.
MJ: Judging from the comments, your posts really resonate with people. What have people connected to that's surprised you?
AB: Probably the first depression post. Depression is a really isolating experience and so you don't really think of other people going through that, even though cognitively you know that other people are depressed. Just seeing how many people identified with the post was actually really helpful for me. The amount of support that I received was pretty shocking.
MJ: You first announced that on Reddit that you were going through a struggle with depression. A big forum like that seems like a scary place to reveal something so intimate.
AB: Well, because the popularity of my blog sort of began on Reddit, I feel a sort of loyalty to the site. The discussion's usually pretty good, I've gotten a lot of good feedback that's very respectful, and has helped me mature as a writer, so I feel like Reddit is sort of an internet home for me.
MJ: It took you a long time to post again after "Depression Part 2." Does you find it hard to follow up a post on a heavy topic?
AB: It's a little tough. But one thing that I worry about is that I'm very much still depressed. It's not as bad as it was, but I worry about getting people's hopes up, writing a silly post and people being like, "Oh she's back, she's better." Because depression is one of those things that can come back without warning. I don't want to have to be like, "Oh, yeah, sorry guys for getting your hopes up."
"I feel like writing it all down has helped me recognize the signs—like...am I eating nothing but nachos?"
MJ: How does depression affect your creativity?
AB: One of the hidden benefits to my depression was that it cured my anxiety. I don't have enough feelings to be anxious anymore. So it does help as far as getting out of my head when I'm writing. It allows me to be more objective about my work. But if it gets to the point where I go back into that void where there's no feelings, it is hard to be funny. Because when I'm really, really depressed, I just don't find myself funny at all—so it's really hard to know whether what I'm doing is something worth posting.
MJ: Does spending all that time in your own head exacerbate the depression?
AB: I think it has been more helpful for me than anything, as weird as that sounds. Depression is really sneaky. I'll just realize one day, "Holy shit, I am super depressed. How did I not realize this?" I feel like writing it all down has helped me recognize the signs—like, how difficult is it for me to perform basic tasks? Am I eating nothing but nachos?
MJ: What are you doing when you're not writing?
AB: I play a lot of Magic: The Gathering, the card game. I'm a huge dork, at least as far as Magic is concerned. Oh, I definitely hang out with my animals.
MJ: You have the two dogs, who play starring roles in your blog and in the book. Any other pets?
"There was a 'Hoarders' episode where they removed 2,000 rats from the house, so we adopted two from that situation."
AB: We have rats. Eight actually. It sounds crazy. We rescue them. There was a Hoarders episode where they removed 2,000 rats from the house, so we adopted two from that situation.
MJ: How long do you see yourself doing the blogging thing?
AB: I'd love to continue writing and drawing for as long I'm allowed to. If you would have told me five years ago that I'd be doing this, I would have been just ecstatic. I can't really think of many other situations where I would be… I mean, I say "happy"—of course, I'm depressed, so that's a relative term. I'm very content doing what I do.
MJ: Do you now feel an obligation to keep your readers informed about your mental health?
AB: I have been trying to make myself be more responsible. There's a part of me that wishes that I could sort of disappear and fade back into the mists when I need to. But I know that's not how reality works. I'm trying not to disappear for quite so long, or as completely.